CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Either cartridge would do perfectly fine for small game but not with your deer load.And I would take neither for that role. Ever.
Either cartridge would do perfectly fine for small game but not with your deer load.And I would take neither for that role. Ever.
Oh please, 200yds is a chipshot for the .30-30.for a 200 yard shot the 30-30 is going to be a poor choice as well. You will have to choose your ammo carefully or at 200 yards you will be at 500 fp and 8 inches low.... Neither a good combo for deer.
The 8" is easily accounted for and the 500fpe number is way off. The Speer 150gn bullet at 2300fps is about 7.5" down at 200 with a 100yd zero but the energy is just shy or 1000lb. The Hornady FTX Leverevolution reduces that to 6.7" and keeps the energy up over 1100fpe at 200. With a 150yd zero, the FTX load keeps 200yds within point blank range. More important than energy though is the fact that the bullet is still within its performance envelope. Doesn't really matter how much energy the bullet is carrying if it fails to expand and makes a caliber sized hole right through the deer.for a 200 yard shot the 30-30 is going to be a poor choice as well. You will have to choose your ammo carefully or at 200 yards you will be at 500 fp and 8 inches low.... Neither a good combo for deer.
Hogwash. If you can't be bothered to learn enough about ballistics to be able to make a 200yd shot with the .30-30, you probably shouldn't be in the woods in the first place.The average sportsman can't make a good 200 yd shot with a 30-30... so an obvious beginner should not be encouraged to do so.
30-30 by far. 200 yards is easily within range for a 30-30, 200 is a FAR stretch for most handgun rounds. The drop is significant, and the energy is WAY down compared to 30-30.
I would say .30-30 just because of the round nose bullet that can punch through briars.
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I'm going to say this respectfully first as others will probably be less so addressing this claim but with all due respect bullets speed or shape having an effect on deflection through vegetation is an absolute myth.
True-dat. You have to grease 'em with hawg fat first. THEN, they'll slide right through the brush.
If you do decide to go 357 in the Handi, unless you have a 357 Mag revolver, there's no NEED to ream to Max. The Max case is designed to ensure that hot loaded 357 isn't put into a revolver. With the exception of using the absolutely heaviest bullets, you can load Max in a 357 Mag case for the Handi. Of course, if you pop your clogs and the wife gives your handloads to a friend....
Very good analogy.Or in other words just accounting for terminal ballistics shooting a deer at 200 with a 357 rifle is like sticking the barrel of a revolver against its hide and pulling the trigger.
Maximum brass yeilds a quite substantial increase in case capacity that's necessary to achieve the numbers it produces. Its not "just longer to not fit" in a magnum. The assertion that you can load Max data in mag brass is a patently false and dangerous one.