44mag

[Axis II]

I decided today to run my normal 240gr XTP with 23.6gr IMR 4227 through the chronograph. Upon loading some up I realized i had some H110 so decided to try it and it did not disappoint. I am however, concerned that the XTP cannot handle these velocities. 24gr H110 shot amazing at 100yards. I plan on using this load on a huge whitetail (probably 230-250lbs buck). How much loss in velocity can i expect at 100yards?

I did forget to roll crimp. Seeing how 24gr shot so well not crimped i’m going to duplicate it and see if it shoots as well.
Listed are the chronograph results.

 

[Axis II]

The cluster of 3 is 24gr H110. Ones with slices are 23.3gr.

 

[Steve51]

I have two lever action .44 magnums. One a rifle, the other a carbine. I seem to have the best accuracy with the Hornady 240 gr. XTP when velocity is approx. 1650 fps.
I have used IMR4227 in the past but now I use Alliant 2400 or AA#9.

 

[Axis II]

I have two lever action .44 magnums. One a rifle, the other a carbine. I seem to have the best accuracy with the Hornady 240 gr. XTP when velocity is approx. 1650 fps.
I have used IMR4227 in the past but now I use Alliant 2400 or AA#9.

I still have a pound of H110 and 4227 so it will be awhile until i try 2400. Its been scarce the last few years locally

 

[JDeere]

24gr of h110 is ok if she shoots well. I run 23gr of H110 and a JSP in my Ruger BH Hunter and Henry Big Boy. They both shoot well with that load...

 

[Axis II]

24gr of h110 is ok if she shoots well. I run 23gr of H110 and a JSP in my Ruger BH Hunter and Henry Big Boy. They both shoot well with that load...

I only did 23.3, 23.6 and 24 because i wanted to squeeze out some velocity. I’ll try 23gr and see what I get.

 

[tominboise]

If shooting in a lever gun, you might not want to skip the crimping step. Set back on the rounds in the tube when recoiling could be an issue. FWIW.

 

[243winxb]

How much loss in velocity can i expect at 100yards?

About 305 fps. Accuracy, group size is most important. Chart is for a scoped rifle. Would be different with iron sights.

https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/ballistic-calculators/#!/

 

[stringnut]

Have not used XTP out of the 44 mag rifle on a deer yet. They shoot well. Have used them out of the muzzleloader and they knock the stuffing right out of a deer from your boot laces to about 120 yards. My brother has shot half a dozen , or so, with his Marlin 44 mag. only one went further than about 10 yards. Theses were all 240 gr. Xtp. His load is 24 grs. of 296 for around 1700 fps. Not sure what the velocity is on the muzzleloader.

 

[Axis II]

If shooting in a lever gun, you might not want to skip the crimping step. Set back on the rounds in the tube when recoiling could be an issue. FWIW.

Single shot, Handi rifle

 

[tominboise]

Single shot, Handi rifle

No worries then. Have fun!

 

[AJC1]

Single shot, Handi rifle

Magnum powders seem to like a good crimp to help resist bullet movements during initial ignition. The exact science of why I cannot relate but I have observed its effects with #9 and 4227 in my loadings. Probably makes as much difference as primer brand and that's to far in the weeds for some.

 

[Axis II]

Magnum powders seem to like a good crimp to help resist bullet movements during initial ignition. The exact science of why I cannot relate but I have observed its effects with #9 and 4227 in my loadings. Probably makes as much difference as primer brand and that's to far in the weeds for some.

I’m going to crimp this time. I loaded them, took a nap and decided to hit the range before dark. Totally forgot to crimp but thats a pretty good group for deer work IMO.

 

[N555]

I still have a pound of H110 and 4227 so it will be awhile until i try 2400. Its been scarce the last few years locally

Alliant 410 appears to be a decent 2400 replacement. Cleaner burning than 2400 and a little faster burning.

 

[AJC1]

Alliant 410 appears to be a decent 2400 replacement. Cleaner burning than 2400 and a little faster burning.

Alliant steel has been used as a 2400 substitute by the guys on castboolits.gunloads.com. Alliant isn't very fond of that idea. Their answer is use the right powder, my response is get it on the shelf....

 

[IALoder]

My wife has shot a couple deer with 240 XTP's out of her 44 Mag Carbine (18.5" barrel). The MV is ~1670fps, both good size Iowa does were shot within 60 yds and were DRT. Both passed through and exit hole was sizeable, one was double lung, one was heart and double lung. Just like yours, one of the loads the Carbine likes is the 240's with 24.0gr H110 and a good crimp.

 

[CraigC]

You still need a firm roll crimp for H110 to burn properly. It needs some resistance and pressure.

Personally, I don't like XTP's and rarely use them. They're too tender for my tastes and the core/jacket tend to separate. I prefer a tougher bullet that holds together and is guaranteed to exit. One I can take a shoulder shot with and not worry about the bullet coming unglued. So I like the Federal Fusion and Speer Gold Dots for jacketed bullets but typically use cast bullets.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

You still need a firm roll crimp for H110 to burn properly. It needs some resistance and pressure.

Personally, I don't like XTP's and rarely use them. They're too tender for my tastes and the core/jacket tend to separate. I prefer a tougher bullet that holds together and is guaranteed to exit. One I can take a shoulder shot with and not worry about the bullet coming unglued. So I like the Federal Fusion and Speer Gold Dots for jacketed bullets but typically use cast bullets.

Exactly the reasons I use the Speer 270 Deep Curl and the Sierra 300 JSP.

 

[Axis II]

You still need a firm roll crimp for H110 to burn properly. It needs some resistance and pressure.

Personally, I don't like XTP's and rarely use them. They're too tender for my tastes and the core/jacket tend to separate. I prefer a tougher bullet that holds together and is guaranteed to exit. One I can take a shoulder shot with and not worry about the bullet coming unglued. So I like the Federal Fusion and Speer Gold Dots for jacketed bullets but typically use cast bullets.

Exactly the reasons I use the Speer 270 Deep Curl and the Sierra 300 JSP.

Rifle season starts the Monday after turkey day so I’m a little late to the party to try a different bullet. I’ve loaded the 24gr 4227 combo for a buddies 44mag single shot and my single shot. Both 2yo bucks taken around 50-75yards and exit holes were golf ball size.

 

[CraigC]

Rifle season starts the Monday after turkey day so I’m a little late to the party to try a different bullet. I’ve loaded the 24gr 4227 combo for a buddies 44mag single shot and my single shot. Both 2yo bucks taken around 50-75yards and exit holes were golf ball size.

You'll be okay, just crimp it. For that bullet and velocity, I would just avoid the shoulder going in, as a precaution.

 

[slowr1der]

Personally, I don't like XTP's and rarely use them. They're too tender for my tastes and the core/jacket tend to separate. I prefer a tougher bullet that holds together and is guaranteed to exit.

+2. In my opinion, the only positive thing about the XTP's is that they are cheaper than most of the competition.

 

[N555]

Alliant steel has been used as a 2400 substitute by the guys on castboolits.gunloads.com. Alliant isn't very fond of that idea. Their answer is use the right powder, my response is get it on the shelf....

I have some alliant steel too, haven't tried to do anything with it yet.
I heard it was kind of like bluedot, hopefully without the erradic pressure spikes near the max loads in handgun loads.

 

[AJC1]

I have some alliant steel too, haven't tried to do anything with it yet.
I heard it was kind of like bluedot, hopefully without the erradic pressure spikes near the max loads in handgun loads.

Did you ever experence the problems with bd. I'm still on my first pound between 30-30 and 357. I shoot 10.6 behind a cast 156 and haven't shot enough to see any problems. Have another 100 loaded to feel it out...