I am toying with the idea of getting a Glock 21 and then buying an aftermarket threaded Bar-Sto barrel. I then want to add a suppressor. Is anyone experienced with suppressing a Glock 21? How about the Bar-Sto barrels? Are they as accurate as the regular Glock barrels? What recommendations do you have for a suppressor? What is the deal with oiling suppressors? Is this required for all suppressors? Also, what is a recoil booster? I am basically looking for a fool-proof setup that allows for reliable cycling while emitting the quietest sound signature possible. Pictures? Thanks.
.45 Suppressor
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I am not an NFA guy, but since no one else has commented I'll try to help:
1) I have used them elsewhere and Bar-Sto barrels are superb. They usually improve the accuracy of any gun they are fitted to. I do not know specifically about a Glock 21.
2) Have you researched if suppressors are legal in your state/area? 25% of the states ban them.
3) You might find better answers search at TFL, which I think has an NFA section. AR15.com does, also, but its hard to find (that site is like a visual train wreck). Here's where to look:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=20
1) I have used them elsewhere and Bar-Sto barrels are superb. They usually improve the accuracy of any gun they are fitted to. I do not know specifically about a Glock 21.
2) Have you researched if suppressors are legal in your state/area? 25% of the states ban them.
3) You might find better answers search at TFL, which I think has an NFA section. AR15.com does, also, but its hard to find (that site is like a visual train wreck). Here's where to look:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=20
First off-they're illegal in every state. You need to go through the whole class III, BATF thing to get one. A .45 is a great choice for one too because they are already subsonic. Very quiet! For what it's worth I shot my buddy's suppressed HK model 23 (I THINK that's the model number) and it was awesome. They come stock with an extended, threaded barrel, so you don't need to modify the gun in any way.
Many suppressors have the ability to be used "wet" or "dry." "Wet" is when you fill them with liquid...this gives you greatly increased dB (decibels) reduction. "Dry" is obvious. You don't fill them, but still get a reduction of dB's. Hope this helps.
Many suppressors have the ability to be used "wet" or "dry." "Wet" is when you fill them with liquid...this gives you greatly increased dB (decibels) reduction. "Dry" is obvious. You don't fill them, but still get a reduction of dB's. Hope this helps.
Sam1911
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Woah, this isn't correct at all.
They are federally regulated by the BATFE under the authority of the National Firearms Act of 1934 throughout the entire country. You will have to pay the tax stamp and go through the background check to have one transferred to your ownership.
On top of that, they are specifically ILLEGAL in some states, as Oro said - so tax stamp or no, you can't own one if you live in one of those daft few.
A cursory check indicates that if you live in any of these you're ok: AL, AR, AK, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MS, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WV, WI, and WY.
Just ask your Class III dealer to help you with the paperwork.
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waterhouse
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Deacon, don't think of it as nitpicking. In the firearms world in general and especially in the firearms world on the internet, people are constantly stating "myths" about what is and is not legal.
Many of my gun owning friends have told me that my suppressors are illegal, and that machine gun ownership is illegal. You can imagine what non-gun-owners think.
When you state something like "first off, they're illegal in every state," even if you actually know how it works and try to explain it in the following text, expect to get corrected.
For the OP, many people have suppressed Glock pistols, and they can answer your questions better than I can.
A recoil booster is often necessary on Browning type pistols (where the barrel moves slightly during the cycling action after firing) because there is now a rather large (relatively speaking) mass hanging off of the barrel that wasn't there when the engineers designed the gun.
Also keep in mind that if you care, most cans will cover up the factory sights on many guns. You might want to look into getting taller sights if you want to be able to use them over the suppressor.
I haven't shopped for a .45 can in a few years, but I've been happy with my SWR HEMS. Most .45 cans will need to be wet to be really quiet. Here is my HK Tac with the SWR:
Many of my gun owning friends have told me that my suppressors are illegal, and that machine gun ownership is illegal. You can imagine what non-gun-owners think.
When you state something like "first off, they're illegal in every state," even if you actually know how it works and try to explain it in the following text, expect to get corrected.
For the OP, many people have suppressed Glock pistols, and they can answer your questions better than I can.
A recoil booster is often necessary on Browning type pistols (where the barrel moves slightly during the cycling action after firing) because there is now a rather large (relatively speaking) mass hanging off of the barrel that wasn't there when the engineers designed the gun.
Also keep in mind that if you care, most cans will cover up the factory sights on many guns. You might want to look into getting taller sights if you want to be able to use them over the suppressor.
I haven't shopped for a .45 can in a few years, but I've been happy with my SWR HEMS. Most .45 cans will need to be wet to be really quiet. Here is my HK Tac with the SWR:
KingTiger
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As waterhouse indicated, SWR makes some nice cans. Here's a link to another, AAC's Evo-45. http://www.advancedarmament.com/evolution_45.asp
Most .45 cans need to be shot wet, which can be a PIA. The noise reduction is there, but some people are disappointed when they first hear some .45 cans. It's not "Hollywood quiet" as you might have been led to believe.
If you're thinking about buying a dedicated host for a can, a Glock is a good choice. However, you may have better results with a G17 or G19 and a 9 mm can. 147 gr. 9 mm subsonic loads are still reasonably priced and will sound much quieter, dry, than a .45 can shot wet.
If your state laws allow it, set up a Revocable Living Trust, it'll make the transfer process much easier, with out the need for passport photos, finger print cards and CLEO sign off.
Most .45 cans need to be shot wet, which can be a PIA. The noise reduction is there, but some people are disappointed when they first hear some .45 cans. It's not "Hollywood quiet" as you might have been led to believe.
If you're thinking about buying a dedicated host for a can, a Glock is a good choice. However, you may have better results with a G17 or G19 and a 9 mm can. 147 gr. 9 mm subsonic loads are still reasonably priced and will sound much quieter, dry, than a .45 can shot wet.
If your state laws allow it, set up a Revocable Living Trust, it'll make the transfer process much easier, with out the need for passport photos, finger print cards and CLEO sign off.
AdvantagePoint
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AND MISSOURI!!
But you must have an FFL or C&R. Which is a gun collector license
and of course a signature for the Sheriff I just got my Evo45 recently, I love it. Worth every penny, but I used a Lone Wolf Distributors on my Glock - the Evo45 went on my HK USP Tac45.
As for performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L28dCxRsoYg&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETVSlUVqjfM&feature=channel_page
As for performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L28dCxRsoYg&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETVSlUVqjfM&feature=channel_page
I personally do not enjoy shooting .45 suppressed as they are loud and not really hearing comfortable (even when wet). And when they are wet you usually get some spray back from the can. I suggest investing in a good 9mm suppressor such as a Trident-9, Shadow-9, or Evo-9.
WoofersInc
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I have a CCF Impuls II on a HK Tactical. It has a bit of a pop when shot dry but wet it is definitely quieter and hearing comfortable. If you look at most hearing protectors that are on the market they only reduce in the mid 20 decibel range. A good 45 suppressor will get up to 40 decibels when shot wet, which is substantially quieter. I can shoot all day with my setup without hearing protection without any side affects.
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