5mag rifle, the ultimate ever? This is the one..

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So on a whim, I decide to go the the Conroe, Tx. gunshow today; I like this gunshow, it is not huge, but it is only 5 bucks to get in, and parking is ample and free. Plus a lot of dealers there, you don't normally see in the Houston area shows, so you don't see the same old crap.
I go to the last table in the joint, and start talking with this lady; her husband is not there right now. I find out she is sick , and going in for surgery, so I figure the husband is selling off some rifles. This guy is an obvious rifle collector/hunter/ and lover, and has some very good centerfire rifles on his table.
So I am looking them over, and what do I see, right on the front edge of the table? a Remmy 592, tube feed 5mag. But , my friends, this is no ordinary rifle; It is new in the box. NEW IN THE BOX, AND LIKE REAAAAALLLY SUPER NEW, like new like no other rifle is new in the box you have ever really seen. This rifle, has a black walnut stock, perfect shine, perfect finish, and not one blemish in it, the box, still has all the plastic in it; the trigger guard has a hang tag on it, my babies!!!! Are you kidding me? The bolt assy., I could tell you this, but you just aren't going to believe me---- not only has
the bolt never been in the cocked position, but the guy has never put it into the receiver of the rifle!!!!
DID YOU GET THAT? There are no bolt marks inside the receiver!! He also tells me, he has never grabbed the bbl, nor put both hands on it or around it!!!! The metal finish looks absolutely wet. I am stunned, I tell him over and over, you don't know how bad I want this rifle, but I myself am needing money right now.
He says would you shoot it, I tell him I will sell all my other rimfire stuff, sell off the ammo, including bricks upon bricks of mach 2 ammo and Aguila ammo, and all my 1000's of rounds of 22 ammo, and buy this rifle, and shoot it continuously. That it would be my all around , inside 200 yds, go to rifle, and it would be quieter than any centerfire ever could be...

Folks, what I am trying to say is this; that if there is such a thing as better than 100% on a rifle, this is it. It gets handled less than new rifles in stores, it has never been cocked, the hang tag is still on it..... Oh yeah, one more thing;
are you ready?

He has never opened up the feed tube, all the way , or even to the opening, to ever even put any ammo in the feed tube. I almost cried when he said this
to me. There are no scratches on the inside of the feedtube, nor on the brass of the feedtube pusher. How frickin' awesome is that?

There is one prob though, He and his wife have no computer, and he doesn't even know how to turn one on; truly from the Fred Flinstone era, though he is not that old. So asking for pics is out.
But only to say this; if you trust me, and you know I have been on this and other sites for a long time, and you know how much I love rifles, you can absolutely trust me when I say, This will be not only 100% and pristine, but it will be the finest example of a 5mag you will ever see in your life, and it is absolutely beautiful, and you would never regret buying it, and just may be the finest looking rifle you have ever seen, old school wood style, ever.
I told him I would pass the info on to a couple of sites, as it seems they are needing the money themselves right now; but I assured them, that if no one buys it, I will sell off my other rimfire stuff, and buy it myself, if no one else gets it.
I think he is asking 650 or 700, I can't exactly remember the price: I was too blown away by looking at this work of art. Also last thing; mfgr date is 1971!!!
How sick is that? My all time favorite part of this rifle, is the emblem, on the bottom of the grip; it is deep red, all swirly looking, and looks just painted on, as in a few minutes ago!!! It is so beautiful, ' snif ' a tear...

I hope I have conveyed well enough, just how fine this rifle is, and I hope I have not forgotten anything, if I have, call the owner, I am sure he can tell you more.
His name is Jimmy Bemmefield, he lives near Conroe Tx., and his number is
936.465.8221.
 
okay, we need to keep this thread going a bit, so as many people as possible see it, and maybe help these folks out. Plus.... well, it is a 5mag folks!
 
For those that haven't seen one, here is my '72 592M with a mahogany stock & topped with a Weaver K4. My son has a '71. Awesome varmit rifles.
 
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For those of you how can't entirely understand rangers excitement....your too young!

A 5mm Remington 592 like New in Box....!!!!!

By the way....it is sold! I called the man to get some info....yup, it's gone!
 
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Oh thats what "5 mag" for some reason I thought it had 5 magazines in it or something :rolleyes:

That is incredibly awesome, I probably wouldn't have paid any attention to it. It is a thing of beauty and I know what you mean about just wanting to shoot the thing every minute of everyday!
 
While I can understand your excitement in general, I don't completely understand why you're so enamored about THAT rifle.

To each their own, though--but if you want it as badly as it seems, I'd say it's time to crack open the piggy bank.
 
Eightball, imagine a rimfire rifle, that shoots a 204 cal bullet, at about 2500 fps, and is no louder than a 22 mag. with ballistics twice as good as a 17 hmr, all the way out to 200 yds. Or put another way, a rimfire, that runs with a 22hornet, with ammo that costs 15 bucks per box of 50, that fit in a little plastic size cci 22 mag container. with the accuracy of , well, a known good 204 caliber bullet. Lets put it even another way, it is like firing a downloaded centerfire 204 ruger bullet, and carries 12 rounds at a time, in the feedtube.
All game out to 200 yds, is dead on yours, with the recoil and sound of
a 22 mag.
 
hhm, sounds like a cool rimfire, why isn't it more popular? are there any other rifles out there that shoot 5mag? i just looked on cheaper than dirt and they have 5mm ammo for $15.79 a box of 50. Is it really worth the extra money over .22wm or .17hmr?
 
It is new in the box. NEW IN THE BOX, AND LIKE REAAAAALLLY SUPER NEW, like new like no other rifle is new in the box you have ever really seen. This rifle, has a black walnut stock, perfect shine, perfect finish, and not one blemish in it, the box, still has all the plastic in it; the trigger guard has a hang tag on it, my babies!!!! Are you kidding me? The bolt assy., I could tell you this, but you just aren't going to believe me---- not only has
the bolt never been in the cocked position, but the guy has never put it into the receiver of the rifle!!!!
DID YOU GET THAT? There are no bolt marks inside the receiver!! He also tells me, he has never grabbed the bbl, nor put both hands on it or around it!!!! The metal finish looks absolutely wet.
And you want to SHOOT it?
 
At the moment there are only the original Remington 591's & 592's plus Thompson Center made some 5mm barrels.
It was an idea that was ahead of its time. Never really caught on. The rifles were introduced in '69 & discontinued in '73 with a total of approx. 52,000 for both models produced. Original ammo made by Remington was discontinued in '82 & commands a premium price.
Now that the .17 has become so popular as a necked down rimfire, it might have a chance at a come back. At least we that have them can get ammo for them again & I'm stocking up incase this is just a flash in the pan.
Taurus was supposed to come out with a revolver chambered for it, but I have yet to see anything on it.
Here is an article compairing it to the .17 & .22Mag.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/magnum_rimfire_comparison.htm
 
So on a whim, I decide to go the the Conroe, Tx. gunshow today; I like this gunshow, it is not huge, but it is only 5 bucks to get in, and parking is ample and free. Plus a lot of dealers there, you don't normally see in the Houston area shows, so you don't see the same old crap.

That is almost exactly my impression of it. Refreshing change from the Pasadena shows.

Took the SO and her mom (mom's first gun show, she just took the CHL class and wanted to look), that was interesting. The SO is hooked on the shows now, plans on spending about 30 minutes each time with the book guy, LOL.

I did like the show, just wish they had more space.
 
Taurus and rossi both, I never saw a rossi, but I did once see a Taurus; ONCE! the 5mag suffered the exact same fate as the first 244's, remmy didn't want anyone else to make the ammo, or the rifles, in a screamer cartridge, and they did the bbl twist wrong.
So winny comes along and goes," okay, we just made the 243, with a 1/10 twist bbl, and we made some 100 grain bullets, and of course if you handload, you can use heavier bullets".
Remmy tried to catch up, tried a faster twist bbl, and tried calling it the 6milly.
Still a great rifle, still and even better cart than the 243, but it was a day late, and many dollars too short. Ruger still makes a rifle in the chambering, and a few others.
 
you are right, the conroe show, is very tight!! skip a big breakfast, or your gut will hit all the tables!!!!

Imagine if you will, why the 5mag is so good. Take the trajectory of the 17 hmr out to 200 yds, then add about 1.5 x the speed, 3 times the energy, and double the resistance to wind drift, all the way out to 200 yds, and that gives you what a 5 mag can do. Truly a bullet and cartridge ahead of it's time; small, quiet , and very , very efficient.
 
Shadow, remember it is not a 22, it is a 20 cal, or much like a 204 ruger, and uses the same size/weight bullets as the 204,... well the 30's right now, and they will really be steamy if they go to 32 or 35 grainers; hope for the 35's.

The origional remmy bullets? try 38 grains , moving out at about 2200 fps...
in a nice long skinny 204 cal bullet, very explody, very ouchy.

as for the new bullets, ask this rabbit(graphic)
http://www.varminter.com/2008/5mmrrm.html
http://www.varminter.com/img/5mmrrm/5mmrrm8.jpg

and look further down the page, at the 100 groups they turned in, in a 40 yr old rifle, that is
esentially a 22 mag necked down; 22 mags are not know for anywhere near that kind of
accuracy.
 
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I didn't know this, but I guess Remington made both models in Walnut stocks and Beech Wood stocks....

So I was told by a guy who says he has two and one is a beech stock, I asked if he could be mistaken and he produced two different part numbers for the same style(592) rifle.

I'm trying to find documentation to such...Does anybody know for sure?
 
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This Remington 591 was given to me about 3-4 years ago. A man I do business with from Effingham Illinois told me this particular rifle was acquired years ago in a trade deal. He said he could not find ammunition for the rifle and it was sittting in the back of his closet gathering dust. I was curious so be brought it for me to look at days later. Upon inspection I asked him what he wanted for it and he just gave the rifle to me. Perhaps a year later Aguila started making ammunition again for it. I wound up buying his son a heavy duty metal target which would stand up to his 44 magnum and we called it even. Yeah, I got the better end of this deal.
 

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Heck of a deal t165!


Uncle Mike,
I have also heard that different woods were used for the stocks (rangerruck mentioned that the one he saw was Walnut) but have never have seen any 592's in person other than my two. I used to make dulcimers using Walnut, Beech & Mahogany & drawing from that experience, the stocks on mine are unmistakably Mahogany. The one in the pictures I posted is the natural color of the wood, there is no stain on that stock.
 
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Mahogany? that would be real nice to find... the one at the show, deff had some black, and wavy streaks in it, just like on the old 99 series stuff from Marlin, which is why I say the one at the show was Black Walnut.

But other than that, most of them that I have seen , were deff beech or birch.
Very plain wood like on the old remmy 788's.
 
Except for that one in the box, I have never seen a pristine one; allthough that one in the pic above looks pretty good.
Normally, they are between 300 and 400, and that is for avg., just what someone is willing to pay I guess. I would say a very nice one, would be at least 350, and go higher, maybe as high as 450, if someone were willing to pay that. Most are not, but some folks are enamoured with the round, or collect this rifle, so they may go that high for a really nice example. I think that much, 450, would be pushing the limit, kinda like the law of limited returns, most peeps just won't pay that much for a rimfire, unless it is a target type rimfire.
However, that new one in the box, is a totally diff story!!! Too bad you could not see just how nice it was!!
 
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