Lothar
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I'm considering buying one of the following two pistols, and am curious to hear comparative opinions from people who have experience with both pistols (or some variant):
1) CZ 75 SA Target (the Custom Shop model of the CZ 75 B SA, customized by Angus Hobdell's shop)
2) STI Trojan 1911 (9mm)
I do plan to try them both out if I can find them, but I doubt that my local range will actually have them, so I may end up ordering one before I can try it out. If I don't like it, I'll sell it later--not a big deal to me.
The intended use of the gun is strictly for slow-fire bullseye target shooting. It will not be a home-defense or carry weapon. I don't compete, so it's just for personal fun. What's fun to me is getting the tightest possible groups on slow-fire targets, and occasional steel shooting.
Here's my understanding from what I have researched about them (feel free to tell me if you disagree)...
The CZ 75 B SA has a pretty decent trigger out of the box, but the Target model has a trigger job done by the foremost expert on the gun, so I expect it to be nothing less than phenomenal. The camming action of the hammer (where the trigger pulls the hammer back a bit before it drops) is supposedly eliminated in the Target model due to the competition hammer, so there's little or no creep. The sights are a fiberoptic front, and Novak rear. I'm not sure if I'd like all-black rear sights, if that's what the Novak's are (not enough contrast against official NRA targets), but I can always swap those out.
The STI Trojan is supposedly very tightly built, and many seem to consider it the best 9mm 1911 available in the ~$1000 price range. The 1911 is not designed around a 9mm platform though, so I am somewhat wary of potential reliability issues. The only downside I see to that gun otherwise is the small magazine capacity, due to the single-stack design.
For the price that I'd be paying for either gun (around $1100), I don't want to feel like I need to do any modifications to it before I'll consider it to be an excellent target gun. I'm looking for an outstanding out-of-the box target pistol.
I'm sure I'll get the typical response from somebody that 1911's have no business being used as a 9mm, but I have zero interest in .45, mainly due to the cost of ammo.
My current favorite 9mm for target use is my Browning Hi-Power with the mag disconnector removed, and a Garthwaite competition trigger. As much as I love that gun, I'm hoping to get something that is more accurate in my hands. The feel of my BHP, ergonmically, is about as close to perfect as I can imagine ever having in a pistol.
I may end up just buying both of them, or perhaps even a Springfield Armory Loaded, instead of the STI Trojan, but perhaps you guys can help me decide which to buy first.
1) CZ 75 SA Target (the Custom Shop model of the CZ 75 B SA, customized by Angus Hobdell's shop)
2) STI Trojan 1911 (9mm)
I do plan to try them both out if I can find them, but I doubt that my local range will actually have them, so I may end up ordering one before I can try it out. If I don't like it, I'll sell it later--not a big deal to me.
The intended use of the gun is strictly for slow-fire bullseye target shooting. It will not be a home-defense or carry weapon. I don't compete, so it's just for personal fun. What's fun to me is getting the tightest possible groups on slow-fire targets, and occasional steel shooting.
Here's my understanding from what I have researched about them (feel free to tell me if you disagree)...
The CZ 75 B SA has a pretty decent trigger out of the box, but the Target model has a trigger job done by the foremost expert on the gun, so I expect it to be nothing less than phenomenal. The camming action of the hammer (where the trigger pulls the hammer back a bit before it drops) is supposedly eliminated in the Target model due to the competition hammer, so there's little or no creep. The sights are a fiberoptic front, and Novak rear. I'm not sure if I'd like all-black rear sights, if that's what the Novak's are (not enough contrast against official NRA targets), but I can always swap those out.
The STI Trojan is supposedly very tightly built, and many seem to consider it the best 9mm 1911 available in the ~$1000 price range. The 1911 is not designed around a 9mm platform though, so I am somewhat wary of potential reliability issues. The only downside I see to that gun otherwise is the small magazine capacity, due to the single-stack design.
For the price that I'd be paying for either gun (around $1100), I don't want to feel like I need to do any modifications to it before I'll consider it to be an excellent target gun. I'm looking for an outstanding out-of-the box target pistol.
I'm sure I'll get the typical response from somebody that 1911's have no business being used as a 9mm, but I have zero interest in .45, mainly due to the cost of ammo.
My current favorite 9mm for target use is my Browning Hi-Power with the mag disconnector removed, and a Garthwaite competition trigger. As much as I love that gun, I'm hoping to get something that is more accurate in my hands. The feel of my BHP, ergonmically, is about as close to perfect as I can imagine ever having in a pistol.
I may end up just buying both of them, or perhaps even a Springfield Armory Loaded, instead of the STI Trojan, but perhaps you guys can help me decide which to buy first.