9mm revolver WHY?!?
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30Cal, I'm not speaking from experience, but I can tell you this:
.357 and 9mm have the same peak operating pressures.
9mm's will usually have faster powder (faster peak, shorter duration)
.357 will have MORE powder and usually a heavier bullet. If bullets are equal there's about 3 times the amount of slow powder as a 9mm unless it's a short-barrel load. And there's a bigger ka-blam due to all that extra powder burning in front of the barrel and the greater volume of gas exiting at that high pressure.
So the .357 is pushing more mass and volume out the front at the same peak pressures.
I bet the .357 is nastier, potentially much more so.
The .45 gives more of a push because it's at half the peak pressure and top velocities are lower too. (more momentum, less KE).
I'd love to know the chamber pressures of these various rounds at the moment the bullet leaves the muzzle for various barrel lengths and powders. Peak pressure occurs just as the bullet is getting going, but the exit pressure will more directly relate to energy wasted as blast out the front.
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GJgo
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I personally would choose one becuase I'm tired of autoloaders. I reload everything I shoot, and I'm not a fan of chasing brass.. In fact I just traded a Kimber 10mm for a S&W 610! If I could find a S&W 940 my M&P 9c might just get the same treatment- it's the last semi in the stable.
Personally, I have no experience with these rimless revolvers... however, It seems like a great idea to me. The biggest downfall of a revolver is its slow reload time. Speedloaders can overcome some of this, but they are expensive and bulky. Moon clips seem like a great way to carry rounds and reload quickly.
If I came across a 9mm revolver for a decent price, I am pretty sure I would have to think long and hard about it.
If I came across a 9mm revolver for a decent price, I am pretty sure I would have to think long and hard about it.
Confederate
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The 9mm round is plentiful in many places, plus it is a small, powerful round, edging out the .38 Spc. It has a modest recoil and is a nice defensive round.
That said, I believe the versatility of the .357 makes it a much more desirable revolver. The .38 Spc +P also is an effective defense caliber. I don't like any round I can't just drop into a chamber.
But to each his own. If someone gave me a 9mm Speed-Six, I certainly wouldn't get rid of it; however, I would rather have the awesome power of the .357, which works against people and animals. As for .38s, they're cheap, readily available and also work well against humans. They also are available in many bullet weights, configurations and powers. I've got a .357 Speed-Six and have never found it wanting.
That said, I believe the versatility of the .357 makes it a much more desirable revolver. The .38 Spc +P also is an effective defense caliber. I don't like any round I can't just drop into a chamber.
But to each his own. If someone gave me a 9mm Speed-Six, I certainly wouldn't get rid of it; however, I would rather have the awesome power of the .357, which works against people and animals. As for .38s, they're cheap, readily available and also work well against humans. They also are available in many bullet weights, configurations and powers. I've got a .357 Speed-Six and have never found it wanting.
bdb benzino
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I have a Taurus 905 and I absolutely love it!! Now to me, it in no way takes the place of a 357mag for me. I like the 9mm revolver for its faster reloads and the fact I can carry 20 clipped rounds that are as fast to reload as an semi-auto. It is also nice for when I am carrying a 9mm for a main CC and the 905 as a BUG.
My 357 mag is big and heavy and has a 4" barrel for HD or an up in the boonies gun.
I also believe that the massive boom and flames that can come from a 357 snubbie can be a bit much for a conceal carry pistol. Dont be fooled though, that 9mm revolver kicks right in the middle of a 38spl and a 357mag.
My 357 mag is big and heavy and has a 4" barrel for HD or an up in the boonies gun.
I also believe that the massive boom and flames that can come from a 357 snubbie can be a bit much for a conceal carry pistol. Dont be fooled though, that 9mm revolver kicks right in the middle of a 38spl and a 357mag.
atblis
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How are the Charter Arms revolvers? Any good?
INMY01TA
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If you nail together two things that have never been nailed together before, somebody will buy it...
kjtrot
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Here are some reasons and my solution to the 9mm revolver question.
I started out with a S&W 686 SSR 357 magnum.
Then I bought a new cylinder and had it machined by pinnacle gunsmiths for 9mm with moonclips.
I now am able to shoot .357, 38, 38 super, and any of the 9mm's with a quick change of the cylinder from the same gun.
The 9mm's shoot with very little recoil since the 686 is a fairly heavy gun suited for .357.
Another reason is that I reload and wanted to keep the number of calibers /components in check. I now have just two calibers and use the same powder for both.
Another good reason is that the wife feels quite comfortable shooting this since revolvers are quite simple to auto's at least for her.
The best part is that it is very pleasant and accurate gun to shoot.
Just my .02 cents worth.
I started out with a S&W 686 SSR 357 magnum.
Then I bought a new cylinder and had it machined by pinnacle gunsmiths for 9mm with moonclips.
I now am able to shoot .357, 38, 38 super, and any of the 9mm's with a quick change of the cylinder from the same gun.
The 9mm's shoot with very little recoil since the 686 is a fairly heavy gun suited for .357.
Another reason is that I reload and wanted to keep the number of calibers /components in check. I now have just two calibers and use the same powder for both.
Another good reason is that the wife feels quite comfortable shooting this since revolvers are quite simple to auto's at least for her.
The best part is that it is very pleasant and accurate gun to shoot.
Just my .02 cents worth.
kjtrot
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Not wanting to hijack this thread, but I feel that the accuracy is as good or better than my Sig 239. I believe that my 9mm Les Baer will out shoot it but we are comparing apples and bananas.
I know it generally shoots better then ME and I have not shot any 38 Super.
As you know it is a real pleasure to shoot and I don't regret spending the money on it for a moment.
I know it generally shoots better then ME and I have not shot any 38 Super.
As you know it is a real pleasure to shoot and I don't regret spending the money on it for a moment.
smallbore
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Why not. Some folks prefer wheelguns.
I'll agree with earlier posters that I like the idea of redundant ammo. A small revolver makes a great backup for a large auto loader, or carbine, or both. Instead of carrying two or three different types of ammo, you could carry one kind that works in two or three different platforms. Sort of like carrying a revolver and a lever action rifle in the same caliber, which I imagine cowboys doing a lot. I think S&W has a .45 ACP revolver that is also sought after.
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