CoalCrackerAl
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I like T.G for plated and jacketed. This post motivated me to load some 9mm today,
File this under "Free advice is worth what you paid"...Hi! 1st post. I have 500 bullets by Everglades. 115gr rn plated v2 (heavy plated, their web site). I also have some Hodgdon Titegroup. Is there a recipe for light loads, just for plinking at the range? First gen Shield. Searched internet can't find an exact match. New to pistol reloading, all my experiance is shotgun shells and even w/that its been years. Looks like I picked a pretty bad time to get into this, no primers or much powder to choose from. A friend gave me an old Rock Chucker (70th b-day) so very therapeutic. Anyway any help would be great. Thanks.
I am thankful that Hodgdon published loads with a deeper seating depth (shorter OAL). My Walther PPQ has a short chamber and bullets with a fatter ogive need to be seated deeper in order to chamber. I seat my LEE 356-125-2R at 1.085" and my LEE 356-120-TC at 1.060". Both function great and are quite accurate.That's a pretty good catch... but the devil is in the details. You will note the charges for that load are quite a bit lower than the charges for the other 115grn load. They are using a smaller charge with a deeper seated bullet to achieve similar velocities. Why did Hodgdon do that? Who knows. But if you cross reference other available data, like in the Speer #14, you will see a typical seating depth of around 1.130" for a 115grn FMJ or plated RN bullet. You are correct, however... the first thing to do before loading a bunch up is make a test round or two and see if it will plunk in your particular barrel.
OP said he was experienced reloading shotshells so not exactly a noob. As it's been explained to me, reloading shotgun is like pastry compared to savory in cooking: more science vs. more craft. If he’s at all accomplished at shotshell reloading then every warning about following recipes is old-hat. Shotshell loaders seem to be a bit compulsive about following recipes to the letter.
Though double change may be easy to see, TG does not need that much change to go into KBoom mode. Bullet setback with a charge near the top is all that is required. A 0.1 gr change can make a difference if your at the top end.
1.060" 1.045" Increase
TG 35441 37951 2510
Bullseye 35821 38468 2647
Universal 35526 38181 2655
WW 231 35547 38268 2721
N 340 34661 37710 3049
HS-6 35097 38472 3375
AA 5 36085 39473 3388
Longshot 36060 39469 3409
AA 7 35527 40476 4949
Are you implying that TG is any worse than other powders for pressure increase due to setback? If so what is your basis. I use Quickload a lot and find it very good for evaluating this sort of thing. I ran TG and a handful of other powders through to see what a 0.015" setback (from 1.060" to 0.045") with my bullet would do for pressure increase. Of everything it tried, TG had the lowest increase. As I previously noted, powders with low load density are less sensitive to changes in AOL or case capacity.
Code:1.060" 1.045" Increase TG 35441 37951 2510 Bullseye 35821 38468 2647 Universal 35526 38181 2655 WW 231 35547 38268 2721 N 340 34661 37710 3049 HS-6 35097 38472 3375 AA 5 36085 39473 3388 Longshot 36060 39469 3409 AA 7 35527 40476 4949