A Kel-Tec engineer must have escaped to S&W, MP12

[nipprdog]

I don't like the integrated forward vertical grip. A) You can't take it off if you don't care for it,

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it's attached using a M-lok rail. go to the 6:35 minute mark in the video I posted in post #27

 

[mcb]

I don't like the integrated forward vertical grip. A) You can't take it off if you don't care for it, and B) If it were to break off or something it's not as simple as just buying and attaching another pic-rail compatible grip.

Also a little off-putting as the amount of light showing through the receiver. Attaching a pic with the "see through" spots highlighted in green. I had to check other pictures and angles to make sure that I was seeing that right. Bleh.

I have no problem saying I'd rather the Keltec over this.

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Re-watch the video in post #27 of this thread, skip to ~6:30. The vertical foregrip is removable, mounting to a section of M-LOK rail on the bottom of the pump handle.

 

[mjsdwash]

has anyone in the last 40 years made an effort to make a bullpup that doesn't look like a spray painted nerf gun?
If they stopped with the stupid molded "styling" and went simple people would like them a lot more. Its like a race for ugliest.
Why cant Keltec or S/W just copy the AUG?

 

[mgmorden]

it's attached using a M-lok rail. go to the 6:35 minute mark in the video I posted in post #27

Re-watch the video in post #27 of this thread, skip to ~6:30. The vertical foregrip is removable, mounting to a section of M-LOK rail on the bottom of the pump handle.

Ah - sorry. Looks like they did a pretty decent job of making a detachable one LOOK integrated. I won't hold that against it.

 

[Master Blaster]

I suspect when you take it out and shoot at moving targets its lack of swing and balance will override any coolness factor. Then there is the lack of a solid cheek weld on that stock after 25 + shells a sore face for sure.

 

[Dunross]

Handled a couple of these at the show in Orlando last weekend.

My biggest concern would be if I were to point one at somebody they may not recognize it as a firearm!

Not my cup of tea, but I suppose with practice one could become proficient with it. Really don't think I'd care to put a few boxes of buckshot through one in one range session though.

 

[TTv2]

These came out a year ago and I've not heard anyone talking about them. IDK if that's good or bad, but have these been good or is the KSG the king of the bullpup 12 gauge?