A Ridiculously Good Turn of Luck With a Ruger Redhawk

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I bought a Ruger Redhawk in 44 magnum with a 7.5" barrel. Grips looked and felt good, didn't think it was too far off my Bisley. At the range I didn't find the grip angle on the Redhawk very good in practice however. I think they made it easy for me to pull left, a problem I don't normally have. Also, late in a shooting session when fatigue starts setting in and technique starts to slip, I discovered that not having a good grip on the gun made for a painful reminder when the trigger guard smacks the knuckle on the second finger.

I saw a really good deal on a set of Hogue Pau Ferro grips and picked them up. A friend of mine from work gave me a 12 lb Wolff spring that he had bought for a Redhawk that he found already had a reduced pull spring in it when he took delivery of the gun. I was happy to get that too, because I like the Redhawk but the DA trigger is no S&W.

So this morning I took it all apart, installed the new spring, and reassembled. Everything went together right, but I was getting a bind-y kind of feel out of the trigger, and about every 6th pull it would bind solid, then free up again. So, when I ran into that I ended up pulling the hammer and spring and trigger assembly and then carefully reassembling it a couple times, because I didn't want to put the grips on til I was sure it was right. One of these times the trigger guard detent/spring fell out of the frame and off the table, and I had to get down on the carpet and look for the spring. While I was down there I found it, but I also saw while I was looking around a little stud/detent looking thing with a spring on it.

Went to a parts diagram, and sure enough, it was the pawl spring and plunger. The first time I took the trigger assembly out, the pawl fell out of its hole in the trigger casting, and the plunger and spring must have zoomed over my shoulder unnoticed by me when it happened.

Reassembled the pistol and everything was hunky dory. In fact I had reassembled it correctly the first time, but the action couldn't work properly without the pawl plunger and spring. I think it's an amazing stroke of good luck that the trigger guard latch retaining ring came off the latch, allowing the latch and spring to fall to the floor, or I never would have found the pawl plunger and spring that I had unknowingly lost when I first took the trigger assembly out of the gun.

My thoughts on the 12 lb spring: it's a good improvement. Hopefully I get no light primer strikes, because it now feels much closer to a S&W DA pull than a stock Redhawk DA pull, which is pretty long and hard.

My thoughts on the Hogue grips: they have a nice palm swell and definitely fill the hand better. They also lower your second finger knuckle so that it isn't directly behind the trigger guard. Should be more forgiving if you pull the trigger without having a death grip on the revolver late in the day.

I had to order a large S&W pistol case to store the Redhawk, because the Hogue grips won't fit in the Ruger case. Felt a little conflicted about storing my Ruger in a S&W box, but it will fit and it was less than $20 shipped. Apologies to the late Bill Ruger.
 
That's a huge stroke of luck that you found that. When I got my Redhawk I disassembled it and some part went wherever the lost socks from the laundry go to live. Called Ruger and they mailed me a new one, no charge.

I have the Wolff spring kit for mine. I started with the 13# spring but had light strikes (CCI primers) so I just went with the 14# spring, and still had light strikes. :( I may order the longer firing pin from Bowen Classics and swap it out. Hopefully you don't have any light strikes with yours.
 
one thing I noticed about the Hogue grips, the hammer pivot walks out just a little with them on. They don't hold the pivot as flush in the frame as the stock grips. Googled it, and I'm not the only one who noticed that. When I replace the trigger guard latch retaining ring I'm going to apply one or two layers of electrical tape inside the grip right where it sits on that hammer pivot and that should fix that.
 
One of these times the trigger guard detent/spring fell out of the frame and off the table, and I had to get down on the carpet and look for the spring. While I was down there I found it, but I also saw while I was looking around a little stud/detent looking thing with a spring on it.

Went to a parts diagram, and sure enough, it was the pawl spring and plunger. The first time I took the trigger assembly out, the pawl fell out of its hole in the trigger casting, and the plunger and spring must have zoomed over my shoulder unnoticed by me when it happened.

Yep if you touch the trigger while you have the trigger group out; the pawl plunger and spring will go flying to outer space. This can also happen with a SP 101 and did happen to me...
This of course is one of the much bigger more robust parts that reside in Rugers....Cause we all know Smiths are the guns with tiny fragile parts...

Its good you found it, now go out and shoot it and see if you are getting light strikes in DA, Hopefully not. If you do have the issue move up to the next spring in the pack. I suspect you will find that the 12 lb spring is too light for reliable DA ignition.
 
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I'm glad somebody likes them Hogue grips. A Redhawk .44 was my first big bore revolver 30yrs ago and I never could find a grip that worked for me.
 
I concur with others above that the 12 lb spring may be a bit light. Depends a lot on how the tolerances in your gun stack up. I found I needed the 14 lb mainspring for reliable ignition across all primer types. The 12 lb would work with WW and Federal primers. As to grips I was not happy with the stock and the Hogue grips. The latter I dealt with Hogue directly and they offered a service to hand fit the grip to my hand size. Finally settled on Herrett Ropers custom made to my hand size which worked for decent hand placement for double action shooting. However, in order to fit the hand the grip was narrow which on heavy recoiling ammo was not so comfortable. Also, as noted you may need the Bowen extended firing pin for reliable ignition with the lighter than stock spring.
 
I'm glad somebody likes them Hogue grips. A Redhawk .44 was my first big bore revolver 30yrs ago and I never could find a grip that worked for me.
I don't like the way they look, but after using them for 20 years my hand is used to them. Nor sure if that's a good thing or not...
 
I had a 12# wolff spring in my Redhawk for a while as part of a trigger job. When I first installed it, it worked flawlessly. Months later, I had ignition issues with DA, but SA still shot reliably. The spring taking a set may have been the difference. I put the stock spring back in.
 
Good for you for finding that part when you weren’t looking for it.
And thanks for posting this. I am considering a Redhawk as one of my next gun purchases once this silliness settles down. Good info from everyone. :thumbup:
 
While I was down there I found it, but I also saw while I was looking around a little stud/detent looking thing with a spring on it.
Because of this I do all gun disassembly over a white t-shirt spread out on the bench.
 
Because of this I do all gun disassembly over a white t-shirt spread out on the bench.

black tshirt over the bench here. When the pawl fell out of the trigger casting I was like "oh crap!" and made a grab for it and I just didn't see the pawl plunger and spring rocket into oblivion.
 
Are all, or at least some, of those tiny plunger/spring things Ruger likes to use the same size? If so it would be nice to have some on hand.
 
Are all, or at least some, of those tiny plunger/spring things Ruger likes to use the same size? If so it would be nice to have some on hand.
The plunger springs may or may not be the same BUT the plungers are different lengths.
 
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