Advantages of the snub nosed revolver?

[up_onus]

Jamz...

i agree with your .38 comment, i was just stating its similar ballistically to the 9mm. in other words....why not think bout the wheelgun instead of a 9mm....

 

[AStone]

How much length do the hogue grips in nematocyst's post add?

Comparing side by side to the original grips (matching up the finger grooves), the Hogues add 5/8" to the length (I.e., to the bottom of the grips) and 3/16" to the backstrap.

Clearly, those full sized Hogues are not for everyone. If you're definitely into pocket carry, they'll make it stick out.

I tried pocket carry before putting them on - front pants pocket, back pants pocket, vest pocket, and didn't like any of them. I'm a relatively thin person, so pocket carry makes me look like I'm carrying a hamburger in my pocket. Besides, I like carrying other things in them.

I just prefer a holster. I find it way more comfortable. Not quite as accessible, admittedly, but for my needs, it works.

Plus, the Hogue's added an entirely new dimension of controllability to that little mule. I can get off multiple shots with it now very comfortably and far more quickly than before. That's just more important to me than pocket carry.

But, like I said, I'm not saying it's the best way. YMMV.

 

[FTF]

Everything has been covered I guess but I'll add my .02.

I happen to have my 642 about 6 inches away on my desk since I'll be running out to take out the trash, check mail and grab my work stuff from my car. 642 goes in pocket of my jacket in a pinch, and if needed, it can actually SHOOT through my jacket pocket. Well, any pistol will 'shoot' but will an auto cycle reliably, probably not. 15oz doesn't make a huge visible bulge in your pocket and there is nothing wrong with putting your hands in your pocket if it's cold outside... good way to be prepared without broadcasting that you have heat. Another person mentioned it, but that reason alone justifies a snubbie to me.

 

[Soybomb]

A lot of people seem to forget that snubnose revolvers are not particularly small. They aren't the equivalent size and weight to a tiny little .380 pocket auto, not by a long shot. A S&W 642 is 6.4" long, 4.4" tall, 1.3" wide at the cylinder, and 15 oz. empty. A Glock 26/27/33 is 6.4" long, 4.2" tall, 1.2" wide, and around 20 oz. empty. All you gain with a snubnose over a pocket Glock is lower weight and the theoretical ability to miss multiple times from inside a pocket (as long as the cylinder is free to turn), in exchange for having less than half as many shots of lesser power (even if you use a .357 magnum snubby, .40 S&W from a G27 will have better numbers than .357 mag from a 1 7/8" barrel) in a slightly larger package.

I half agree. Some poeple act like a snub is a tiny little easy to hide gun. I can't keep them in the pockets of all my pants, the p3at is far smaller and easier to hide. However I think a g26 which having similar dimensions in general has them in such proportions that make it much harder to find. The cylinder is a soft bulge with the jframe, the glock is a little brick. The shape of the back of the jframe makes it very easy to pull from my pocket, the g26 wants to get stuck on the front of my pocket usually. Personally I don't feel like I can hide a g26 nearly as easily as I can a snub.

 

[HiWayMan]

he snub in a pocket or IWB. In fact I just bought a minty S&W M49 to compliment my Taurus 651. I feel even more secure with one in each front pocket, but a good belt is a absolute must with this setup. I thought my pal was going to have a stroke when I whipped out both on the range and commenced to blazing away. All hail the NY reload!!!!!!!!

 

[Phil DeGraves]

I'm with HiWayMan. I find it much easier to carry J-Frame than any serious auto pistol (9mm and up). The revolvers are much easier for me to shoot than the little pocket pistols and are more powerful and reliable. And I too am a firm believer in the NY reload. I carry two M36s.

 

[orygunmike]

Bullet Pulling

Jim March mentioned "bullet pulling"...

"The sole partial exception is the ultralight "unobtanium" guns. If your 357Mag weighs less than 20oz or your 38Spl weighs less than 15, yeah, you're going to need to check for "bullet pulling" and you'd best avoid plain lead defensive ammo (the various 158gr lead hollowpoint +Ps come to mind) as lead is slicker than copper."

I'm not familiar with this phenomena.....could someone please educate me?

thanks

 

[HiWayMan]

I'll take a swing at bullet pullig.

It is all physics really; Newton's Laws.....things at rest stay at rest.........equal and opposite reactions.......all that jazz.

Basically the heavy recoil of the gun causes the bullet to pull from the case. This means that after four shots the fifth round may have the bullet pulled far enough out of the case that it extends beyond the face of the cylinder. Not only potentially unsafe, but it can tie the gun up to the point of being unoperatable.

For these reasons a heavy crimp is essential when using light weight guns. And since lead is slicker than metal jacket material there is a greater tendency for bullet pulling to occur with lead bullets.

 

[SIRVEYR666]

Good job, HiWay Man! You get an A+.


Aren't you at work right now?

 

[HiWayMan]

"Good job, HiWay Man! You get an A+.


Aren't you at work right now?"



Yep.......aren't you ya lazy bum?

 

[RyanM]

It's quite possible for bullet pulling to be a factor even with heavier guns. Jumping crimp is almost the revolver equivalent to limp-wristing failures.