Advice Please, H&K P7

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I have gotten the P7 bug.

I've never owned one...I have shot one (20 years ago).

I am looking at a PSP with nickel slide (police trade-in I believe).

Price is $750, gun is like new.

Previous/current P7 owners: what are the pros and cons of the model and is this a decent price?
 
i don't think any of the surplus PSPs came with a nickeled slide

i didn't realise that had gone up that much in price

the PSP is an excellent compact 9mm. a longer barrel than most in it's class and very safe and accurate by design
 
Right now the P7 is suffering from everyone thinking that it is worth more than it is. That actually sounds like a decent price for a nickel slide version. If you end up not getting that one do not pay more than 625 for a standard PSP with one magazine. Recently I have seen P7 PSPs with two magazines being priced at around 725-750. In my opinion that is high. It is true though that extra magazines cost between 75-100.
 
Right now the P7 is suffering from everyone thinking that it is worth more than it is.
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I think the opposite is true. With the influx of all the Saxony/German police trade in P7's prices have been depressed. When these dry up, prices will go back up. $650 - $700 for a P7 is a steal.

To the OP. Pass on this one and get a Grade A or B from CDNN. Someone's refinished it and who knows what the internals look like unless you can inspect it.
 
JMOfartO:

FWIW I sold one of my three "A" grade Lower Saxony Police HK P7's w/2 mags, earlier this week for $750+$25 shipping..

I would recommend you try and stay with an "A" grade pistol, and my experience dealing with CDNN was excellent.

I've noticed recently more and more HK P7's showing up for sale on several firearm forum "classifieds" so you might check out the possibility of finding one on one of those places. I believe HKPRO forums have one or two now for sale in the classified section.

I'm in agreement with the gentleman who said he didn't think any of the imported surplus LSP pistols came with refinished slides, so I would personally pass on any of those.

Pay a little more for the "A" grade, and buy a couple of extra mags if you can find 'em.

These pistols were graded in Germany by HK folks, based on "internal" condition, and two of mine came in "excellent/like new" condition while one was actually NIB.. (go figure?)

Personally I've never owned a higher quality, nor more accurate 9mm pistol than my P7's.

Hope you find what you want..

Best Wishes,

Jesse

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To the OP. Pass on this one and get a Grade A or B from CDNN. Someone's refinished it and who knows what the internals look like unless you can inspect it.
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I agree 100%.

I picked up a Grade A from CDNN last year, and it looked brand new inside and out.
 
Just to clarify, CDNN did sell several of the P7s with the silver colored (I don't recall the material) slide. I don't know if they were ever in the print uncatalogued but I got emails about them and I transferred one, so I'm sure they had them.

Great gun. Right now mags are near impossible to find and expensive when you can find them. If you do a search here for pros and cons there are many threads which talk about the good and bad points in high detail.

I carry one nearly every day, and I really like the design.
 
Well when there is on PSP for sale in great condition for 625 and its not selling and there are a few others with a bunch of holster wear on them for 725 I think they tend to be overpriced for the market. True they are a great pistol and you should jump on them while you still can while they are this low I get sick of seeing them for around 700 with owners refusing to go lower on them when they are only selling for around 650 tops.

I am only referring to the bottom of the barrel PSPs here with one magazine for all you nitpickers.
 
Well, it is my understanding there are around 1500 more of the PSP coming into the country later this year, but the dealer pricing will jump to around $ 625 with two factory mags from Hk. Then you can add $ 35.oo or more for the A grade pistols. Extra mags will be available, but pony up $ 50-75 each.

I sold my last CDNN gun (A grade) for $ 700 with three mags and desided to keep my cherry P7-M13 for a range toy. Well, its too "thick" for my hand and I miss my PSP.

As to your interest:
The nickel is a non factory addition, but set someone back $ 100.00 to make it look pretty. Also, these pistols are the most accurate 9mm semi-auto's out of the box I have ever shot from Hk next to the P9S.

PS: These pistols are graded in good Ol' Alabama, FYI.
 
I got an excellent (99%) HK P7 PSP for $750 at about St. Patricks day that seems about the price they go for these days with there factory accessories and in good shape. I would ask about the nickle slide I have seen P7's like that but don't much know about them. HK P7 PSP's are great pistols compact but not tiny, accurate, well made, unique and very reliable. P7M8 mags are not interchagable with PSP mags. The P7M8 has the thumb mag release the PSP has the mag release on the heel of the grip hence the mag releases work completely different. The mags are probably the same except for the hole location for the magazine latch.
 
Earl,


Remember, before the recent influx of the trade in PSP's, you couldn't touch a P7 for under $1K.

Was at KDWU a few times recently in your neck of the woods.
 
My experience has been that P7s have gone down a bit in price (Police trade-ins) but the P7M8s have been steadily rising in price. As for the P7M13s, they seem to be holding their own but I've seen some bargains. Like a previous poster, I had to sell mine because the double stack grip was just too wide for my hand.

My local shop currently has a regular P7 in absolute pristine condition (LNIB) with 2 mags and matching box. They want $1199 - ain't gonna happen.
 
thats a good price.
The only bad things about the psp is the mag capacity and the possiblity that it may get very hot if shot in rapid fire. but these are small things to worry about. Buy it and love it for the rest of your life.
 
benderx4:

I sold this CDNN "A" grade P7 last week w/2 mags & original (cardboard) box for $750.00+ $25 shipping, and consider I got a fair price for the fine P7, and I think the buyer got his money's worth too.

Anytime the buyer and the seller, on any transaction, are both happy it's a "win-win".. :)

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Best Wishes,

Jesse
 
Jesse: That's a beautiful P7 - there is no doubt that was a very fair price for an awesome gun. As you said, if both parties are happy, then the deal was a good one. Want to sell one of your other two? Ha!
 
benderx4:

Nah...

The first P7 CDNN sent me was NIB... Here's a picture of it, and I use it every now and then for my 9MM carry choice.. I just like it that it's relatively low serial number, and I was the first to shoot it.

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My 2nd CDNN P7 came "excellent/as new" and had I not gotten an absolutely unfired P7 first I would have thought it new also.. But after a comparison I would assume someone shot it at least a few times. The cocker was not even scratched. (It is now a little because I fired a couple of mags thru it to ensure proper functioning..) Also this P7 has a pronounced "plum" tint to the slide, and while some H&K folks don't care for the plum tint, I like it. It just adds a bit of unique "flavor" to an already unique firearm.

The 2nd HK P7 having a "plum tinted" slide is a plus for me, not a minus.

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The 3rd P7, and the one that I sold was also in excellent to like new condition but was neither a lower serial number, nor did it have a pronounced "plum tint".. So it was a fine pistol, performed and functioned perfectly, as do the other two, but I had to sell something to finance a new P2000sk V3 so one had to go.

Hopefully the other two won't hit the classifieds until the ad is placed there by my "heirs".. :D

I'll tell ya... HK P7's are fantastic pistols.

Best Wishes,

Jesse

P.S. Hey, unusual for me I took the opportunity while buying the P7's to pick up an additional 6 used/like new mags (@$39.99 ea), so still have 7 P7 mags in total, and Lordy the prices for those have gone thru the roof.. I have 4 correctly date coded for the first P7, 2 date coded for the 2nd, and one with another date coded for the one I sold. I offered to sell the buyer the 3rd but he declined.. My buddy bought a CDNN "A" grade P7 at my suggestion but only was able to get one mag with it.. I might just give this off date coded mag to him..
 
Freakshow, your "B" grade gun is the only one pictured in this post that has it's original factory finish and is more desirable than the "A" grade "re-finished" PSP guns out there.
All PSP (and P series) pistols are serialized and unit stamped after the bluing process from Hk. If any of the import or proof stampings as well as the serial numbers are not "raw metal" stamped, the pistol has been refinished, period. The majority of the "factory nickel" guns out there are re-finished guns, fyi.
 
Plinker is absolutely correct. There are a bunch of folks doing some refinishing out there (T25?) and calling it a factory nickel or factory blued finish. Pretty sure CDNN is one of the worst culprits here - although they do sell a great gun at a great price. Black T is another finish I've seen at gun shows trying to be passed off as an original finish.

But the proof IS in the pudding - or in this case, the roll marks. If they are filled in, more than likely that gun has had work done to it. (Ford's is the exception in that they actually re-engrave all the markings after refinishing a slide.) If they are shiny showing actual steel (like in this pic of one of mine), it's probably the original finish.

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