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Air rifle for raccoon? Needs to be quiet

Discussion in 'Air Guns' started by Buck13, Aug 25, 2018.

  1. Bfh_auto

    Bfh_auto Member

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    22 call pump-up with the heaviest pellets you can find.
    Most cities have ordinance against pellet and bb guns.
     
  2. jmorris

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    Where are you at that your running a heat lamp this time of year?
     
  3. fpgt72

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    No...this was last winter....I was so darn mad...brand new coop, painted, water seal, fenced area...dug a trench and ran power to it so the water would not freeze and they could stay warm. Darn it was nice.
     
  4. joneb

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    Raccoons like possums are pretty tough critters. I would use a CCI Quite 40gr 22 lr from a bolt action with a MV of 710 fps and a ME 45 ft/lbs
    This is as quiet as my Hatsan 85 QE .22 cal. dieseled with coconut oil at 972 fps with a 15 gr pellet and a ME of 31 ft/lbs
     
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  5. Jeb Stuart

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    Making a Springer diesel will ruin your spring.I imagine the noise was louder than a 22.cal.
     
  6. Grumulkin

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    I don't think raccoons are necessairly tougher than other animals but their nervous system seems to function for longer than other animals even though they are dead.

    I've killed two nuisance raccoons this year with a Benjamin .22 caliber Nitro Piston air rifle. I had trapped both in Hav-A-Hart traps and a single shot to the head was enough though they did bang around in a non purposeful sort of way for awhile even though they were really dead.

    I think with an air rifle versus raccoon you really need to make a head shot at fairly close range to be sure of putting them down so they don't run off.

    As long as they stay where they belong, I like raccoons but I don't like raccoon feces on stuff in the barn or to have my plants dug up, etc.
     
  7. fpgt72

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    They are tough....just like tree rats...squirrel....tough critters that can take a licking and keep on tickin.

    One of the few things that will get me on my high horse is unethical hunting/pesting.

    Another thing people forget with pellet rifles is they slow down FAST. The foot pounds are close to the muzzle....go 25 yards out and those pellets really slow down.

    This is going to be a project of mine....the speed of pellets from muzzle to target....I don't think I have seen any real tests on this yet.
     
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  8. Chevota

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    fpgt72: If you (or anyone) haven't yet, get the free program Chairgun and you'll see how quickly pellets slow. On avg I'd say half power is lost ~50yrds, depending on the pells BC so some are much worse. It's interesting to see how much is lost at even 10yrds, especially if transonic, but Chairgun can't calc transonic issues so you have to use two cronys and test yourself. I have it written down somewhere but I recall a massive power loss on some pells going too fast.
    I don't like to see anything suffer as a general rule, but sometimes I don't mind it at all. Like when a Coyote killed my cat and later I had a shot at it w/ a 22LR. It was midnight using open sights at ~20yrds and I wouldn't risk missing a head shot. I had zero prob taking any shot I could and it ended up being in the chest somewhere. He ran off to die elsewhere and all that mattered was revenge. Gawdammuthafuknkoksuknsumbich. I have a love/hate w/ Coyotes since I had one as a pet when I was a kid, but after losing several cats I'd killem w/ my bare hands given half the chance. I even try n hittem w/ my car. I won't use a steel trap tho, that's too hard core cruel. Even as a little kid I couldn't believe anyone could use one on anything for any reason, super especially since the wrong animals often get caught. And as much as I hate gophers I won't use those steel spike clamp dealies, that's like hard core medieval torture...

    joneb: I figured those CCI Quiet ammo wasn't all that quiet since they made so much power. Sounds like they may be louder than typical CB's? Thanks for the info bc I was considering buying a box to see, but I'll pass. The Colibri I mentioned are actually quiet, but very weak. Excellent for rats, gophers, birds etc. Would no doubt killa coon but tween the eyes brain shot only. The CCI does sound like an excellent suppressor round, but I live in California where cool stuff and fun are outlawed :( Could be worse I guess, Canada doesn't overlook suppressors on airguns like the US does.
    Maybe someone will come out w/ 22LR sabot ammo that doesn't need as much power to push so they can be as quiet as Colibri but have more power. Or better yet; allow me to have a suppressor and I'll be very very happy.

    Jeb: dieseling won't hurt a gas spring like his, but it "may" stress a coil spring. My only concerns are the main seal bc some (Weihrauch) melt easily, and if dieseling is too strong it can force the piston all the way back and recock the gun. That could be a sweet bonus but I'd worry the piston is hitting the back too hard. Doubt it but ya never know...
    A better way (imo) to diesel is to put the oil in the back of the pellet so the explosion is in the breech rather than the compression chamber so less of said boom gets to the piston/seal etc, and more goes to the pellet so less fuel needed which is also less stressful. Plus it's substantially more accurate to measure the fuel and your velocity is far more consistant. Doing it via lubing the chamber is iffy at best and vel is all over the place.
     
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  9. fpgt72

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    This is how I killed my first chrony if you get my drift.
     
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