Am I crazy? Or, "The SBR'ed MN 91/30"

[MatthewVanitas]

You don't need a NFA $200 transfer for AR 15 pistols, do you?

Nope, they're officially handguns because they left the factory as handguns.

This would be simaler woud it not?

Nope, they're officially rifles because they left the factory as rifles.

Therefore, a Mauser/Nagant/RemChester would require $200 to cut down.

Note that a factory-issued cut-down Rem Model 7 is an XP-100 pistol, and totally legal as just a normal handgun. Because it... left the factory as a handgun.

Laws don't have to make sense, that's why they're called "laws".

 

[wdlsguy]

From ATF letter & pistol builds at ar15.com:

 

[MisterPX]

Go for it!!!
If the $200 ain't gonna kill you, do it. The hard part is deciding what barrel length you'll want.

 

[kfranz]

What would be the leagleties of doing something like this with a Mauser reciver? You can pick them up, just the reciver (sometimes barrel), could you then cut it down, (or add a short barrel), and then throw it in a cut down old stock? You don't need a NFA $200 transfer for AR 15 pistols, do you? This would be simaler woud it not?

Never been built Mauser receiver, yep. Once a rifle now a stripped receiver Mauser receiver, nope, for the reasons mentioned above.

 

[Third_Rail]

MisterPX - somewhere between 6" and 10" for a barrel length, I believe.

 

[crunker]

That looks interesting, but I'd rather have it with a stock.

 

[deputy tom]

Crazy no,mashuguna yes.tom.

 

[Dionysusigma]

If I personally were to get a Mosin SBRed, I think I'd do something like this, first:

... and when I got back from the doctor (psycologist, psychiatrist, and medical) I'd put a good recoil pad on it, along with using a PAST.

 

[Sniper4Life]

I wish I had one of those, the trick to shootin a gun like that, (12 ga, 3 1/2 slug, I thougt it was 2 1/2 in shot. Oh by the way pistol grip) is to hold the pistol grip and hand right below your rib cage and press into your gut. When I shot I thought it kicked harder than normal, then went on to shoot the remainin 4. It would probably work with a gun like that, I would like to try.

 

[Stiletto Null]

1. Darrell Mount
2. Red dot sight
2. Single-point sling

 

[arthurcw]

1. Darrell Mount
2. Red dot sight
3. Single-point sling

Stiletto Null,

M/N Stands for Mosin Nagant, not Mall Ninja.

 

[Stiletto Null]

^

Wouldn't be any more tacticlol than any number of race guns or giant-ass hunting pistols with scopes on them.

And it's not like the thing actually has a front sight, which would impede aimed fire.

 

[kfranz]

If I personally were to get a Mosin SBRed, I think I'd do something like this, first:



... and when I got back from the doctor (psycologist, psychiatrist, and medical) I'd put a good recoil pad on it, along with using a PAST.

Ah yes, the rare Nagant Model 91/59/06

 

[Father Knows Best]

Third Rail, you're my hero. You definitely need to build that thing. You let me shoot it, and I'll buy the beers (and Advil) we'll need to recover.

I'm thinking a hockey helmet with a full face mask would be a good thing to be wearing when you touch it off....

 

[PTK]

Being that this thread is what originally spurred my interest in desecrating a Mosin I reckoned it was only right to post my masterpiece here. Enjoy.

 

[collateral]

I wonder if you could just put a chamber insert in and fire 7.62X39 out of it and avoid the reloading aspect since most 54r is berdan primed.

Since the x54 casing is rimmed and a different size, youd need a different bolt.

That thing looks insane haha, but very cool at the same time. I dont imagine it would be possible to fire some heavy ball through that haha.

 

[Cosmoline]

Your obryez is sweet. Have you actually fired full power loads from it? Because I'd love to see that on youtube.

 

[07Lway]

I think I would be wearing a helmet, double hearing protection, flame retardant clothing, padded gloves, eye protection (even with the helmet shield), and my biggest set of balls to be able to pull the trigger on that beast with full power loads...

 

[PTK]

I will ask around as I'm certain I know someone out here with a digital recorder.

Yes I've fired full power loads. Recoil is brisk, the fireball is huge, and a rather odd grip of thumb along the side of the stock is needed to keep the cocking piece from tearing into the web of your hand.

 

[Cosmoline]

I can only imagine how big that fireball would be, given how much there is out of the M38.

 

[PTK]

About the size of a basketball. Court.

 

[Davo]

Very cool, id be using reduced loads if I had one. Any plans for sights on that thing?

 

[rjohnson4405]

Awesome

Congratulations, I'm glad you got to finish a project you really wanted. That would be fun to shoot, I think. I for one would probably rather have that than a normal Mosin.

 

[jrfoxx]

While they do look pretty darn cool, and Its about the cheapest SBR one coud make to boot, and Ill likely do it myself, someday, I just cant imagine firing that thing.My m44 abuses me pretty good if I dont put a recoil pad on it.....
Still, I'd have to fire it once, just to do it, but I'm sure I'd be cured after that...

 

[Jackal]

Now, to fit that into a Ruger Charger-esque stock.....