Kingofthehill
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Doing research on this shop and its not pretty. TONS of bad reviews of shady practices going on. Hmmmm.... interesting.
"American Guns" TV show.....
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RDCL
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As the Op I suppose one would think I've watched it too......but I have not....yet.
I have it saved on my DVR. It's a work night and I just don't get into TV much on a work night. You see....All my favorite gun shows are on during the week.....so I set my cable box to record them all for me to enjoy on Friday. It's my Friday ritual!
....So Friday I'll have: (so far)
"American Guns"
"American Rifleman"
"Shooting Gallery"
"Gun Nuts"
"Midway USA Gun Stories"
"Impossible shots"
"Shooting USA"
"Top Shot"
"Best Defense"
.....So yeah. I'm into my gun shows. Some "Sons Of Guns" episodes coming up but their repeats. In any case, I'm reading both positive & negative opinions on the show.......I'll watch Friday and see how it is. Even if I DON'T like it....I suppose I'll probably give it one more try before I call it quits.
Russ
I have it saved on my DVR. It's a work night and I just don't get into TV much on a work night. You see....All my favorite gun shows are on during the week.....so I set my cable box to record them all for me to enjoy on Friday. It's my Friday ritual!
....So Friday I'll have: (so far)
"American Guns"
"American Rifleman"
"Shooting Gallery"
"Gun Nuts"
"Midway USA Gun Stories"
"Impossible shots"
"Shooting USA"
"Top Shot"
"Best Defense"
.....So yeah. I'm into my gun shows. Some "Sons Of Guns" episodes coming up but their repeats. In any case, I'm reading both positive & negative opinions on the show.......I'll watch Friday and see how it is. Even if I DON'T like it....I suppose I'll probably give it one more try before I call it quits.
Russ
kd7nqb
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Watched the first show and I liked it, don't know that I would buy a gun from the guy but I liked it.
788Ham
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I haven't been to this guys shop, but I know exactly where it is, and I won't be going in there! Two, and possibly three other owners have been in that same store, all have failed to make it. They have all had the same approach to customers, "Listen to what I have to say, as you don't know anything about anything!" If they didn't know about a particular revolver, it wasn't to be known by anyone, as they knew it all. Arrogant types, all of them, they won't be around long.
Twiki357
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I watched, for what ever that's worth. Struck me as a cheap imitation of Sons of Guns but with a hot daughter. Ahhhh, if only I were 50 yours younger.
Twmaster
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Oh cool! Now we get to hunt Harleys!!
788Ham
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I'd think it would have to be better, at least the "Hog" gal knows how to tote her iron.
DogLegArms
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IMO the fact that there is an audience large enough to create gun shows on major cable channels is a good thing for gun rights.
pikid89
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If I were his gunsmith, I would find it sort of insulting that he is explaining what shape the firing pin needed to be...ill bet they didn't shape it correctly on purpose.
And i wish I had a toy fund like that biker dude...S&W 686 or a Stainless Blackhawk or a Colt 1911...hmm...what the hell, I'll take all 3
And i wish I had a toy fund like that biker dude...S&W 686 or a Stainless Blackhawk or a Colt 1911...hmm...what the hell, I'll take all 3
ibthumper
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I'll give it a shot and see how it goes. As long as firearm owners are shown as law-abiding thoughtful Americans. I take it for what it is: Entertainment. Yea, the wife a daughter aint hard on the eyes as well.
Smokin Gator
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Cute, skimpily dressed sister with a gun on her hip in a contest selling guns to a bunch of bikers vs her brother. Poor guy didn't have a chance. Mark
You know, if we could keep this on topic about guns rather than the MINOR working behind the counter that would be great.
(In fact, is it legal for a minor to SELL a firearm?)
As for the knuckleduster... neat little project. I found watching the actual build part of that more interesting than the typical AK/Military builds at Red Jacket. As for the finished project... hope that biker took home his new $5k pistol and got all the water out of it.
(In fact, is it legal for a minor to SELL a firearm?)
As for the knuckleduster... neat little project. I found watching the actual build part of that more interesting than the typical AK/Military builds at Red Jacket. As for the finished project... hope that biker took home his new $5k pistol and got all the water out of it.
MountainBear
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I went to the same school as that gunsmith (a few miles away from the shop in question). I have trouble imagining that he doesn't know how to shape a firing pin for a rimfire.
When I was going to school in Denver, we regularly made the rounds of all the local shops, Gunsmoke included. It's a cool shop. It has cool guns all over. But the service was NEVER good. The other shops I went to in Denver may not have had the fancy selection, but at least shops like G&G on Colfax treated us with respect...
I have no comment on the pimping of the family members.
Resist Evil
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My wife and I took a class from Rich Wyatt a couple of years ago. Rich is built for self-promotion and pushing his business. I remember when he had a little shop on Wadsworth before moving over to his 44th Ave location. I don't believe he's a bad guy, but I think he's, well, a promoter.
He had claimed that he was a disciple of Col. Cooper and trained by him to be an instructor. He dropped Clint Smith's name (Thunder Ranch) as being one of those so trained. Before we spent the bucks for Rich's class, I sent an email to Thunder Ranch asking for verification of his bona fides. Heidi Smith was kind enough to phone me to explain that Clint did know of Rich and did know him from Gunsite. Not much elaboration beyond that. End of story. That said, I thought, how bad could the class be? Ultimately, the class was valuable to my wife and I. There was a dispute about the class price, but Rich stood up (kind of) and respected the difference.
Rich may be some things, but I don't think he's dishonest. He pimped his style of 1911 gunsmithing, but despite the desirability of his frame ideas, we simply couldn't pull the trigger. We turned right around and spent beaucoup de dollars on a Nighthawk that sported Rich's thin frame idea (a la Lady Nighthawk's milled-down frame) because we couldn't push ourselves to really buy into "him."
Rich is who he is. Some say (OK, several have said in personal conversations and posts on other websites) Rich is lacking in some ways in his operations. I suggest that his character seems sincere, but he seems limited by his awkward ambitions. His prices seem high, I'm not sure about the value, and we've seen no reason to return to his business. After talking with my wife about his show, after having been tipped off that he even had a show by a friend of mine yesterday, we decided we weren't interested in watching it. YMMV.
He had claimed that he was a disciple of Col. Cooper and trained by him to be an instructor. He dropped Clint Smith's name (Thunder Ranch) as being one of those so trained. Before we spent the bucks for Rich's class, I sent an email to Thunder Ranch asking for verification of his bona fides. Heidi Smith was kind enough to phone me to explain that Clint did know of Rich and did know him from Gunsite. Not much elaboration beyond that. End of story. That said, I thought, how bad could the class be? Ultimately, the class was valuable to my wife and I. There was a dispute about the class price, but Rich stood up (kind of) and respected the difference.
Rich may be some things, but I don't think he's dishonest. He pimped his style of 1911 gunsmithing, but despite the desirability of his frame ideas, we simply couldn't pull the trigger. We turned right around and spent beaucoup de dollars on a Nighthawk that sported Rich's thin frame idea (a la Lady Nighthawk's milled-down frame) because we couldn't push ourselves to really buy into "him."
Rich is who he is. Some say (OK, several have said in personal conversations and posts on other websites) Rich is lacking in some ways in his operations. I suggest that his character seems sincere, but he seems limited by his awkward ambitions. His prices seem high, I'm not sure about the value, and we've seen no reason to return to his business. After talking with my wife about his show, after having been tipped off that he even had a show by a friend of mine yesterday, we decided we weren't interested in watching it. YMMV.
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pockets
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I thought the same thing......He pays out the wazoo for the rebuild and a scratch-build, then they dump water on him and the new gun? Plus the poor guy ends up looking like he soiled his jeans. But that slow-motion video of the big balloon removing itself from the water was the coolest part of the show!
I enjoyed the knuckle-duster build. Except, these expert machinists could not make the two frame parts correctly on the first go-around, even with the original parts in their hands to measure and copy? I thought the presentation of the block of brass bit was just plain silly. As if there were some mighty mojo to machining a part (or parts) from a block of material.
I also wondered about the legality of a 16-year-old selling firearms. Although, all she really did was bat her eyes, wiggle, and get someone to say "yes" to shiny objects....so perhaps that isn't considered 'selling'.
Basically, the show looked like a group of producers watched 'Sons-Of-Guns' and 'Lock'n'Load', then tried to come up with a program with a bit of both.
As for the daughter? I think she is more annoying than Stephanie of 'Sons-Of-Guns'. Plus, IMO, Matriarch Renee is actually better looking than her offspring Paige. Sure, a 16-year-old in Daisy Dukes is cute, but she's 16. Really Rich, is business so bad that you need to pimp your daughter to television?
I wonder if Renee and Paige ever fall victim to 'hot brass and tank-top syndrome'?
My main question about this show is; Where was Snookie?
I'll probably DVR the show every week for giggles, but it really wasn't all that good. But.....it IS a gun show on an HD channel.
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Buck Nekkid
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I really appreciate the lack of tattoos, scraggly hair, weird beards, etc. This is a GOOD looking family. Also seeing collectible Winchesters being shot...NICE!
Yeah, to all the reality show comments and trash.
But this bothered me, sorry if it has been said already.
I wanted more details in the knuckle duster. Was it a 22? Looked like it.
Why not put between the chamber notches on it like the NAAs? Such crack machinists should be able.
Why does the stainless cylinder cost $500. I get NAAs in the mid 100s and they have such?
Ok - they test a live round by firing it on a block of gel on a metal table? Inside?That's insane.
It's like when the idiots of SOG shoot off rounds of blanks as a surprise in the shop.
Unprofessional, don't ya think?
But this bothered me, sorry if it has been said already.
I wanted more details in the knuckle duster. Was it a 22? Looked like it.
Why not put between the chamber notches on it like the NAAs? Such crack machinists should be able.
Why does the stainless cylinder cost $500. I get NAAs in the mid 100s and they have such?
Ok - they test a live round by firing it on a block of gel on a metal table? Inside?That's insane.
It's like when the idiots of SOG shoot off rounds of blanks as a surprise in the shop.
Unprofessional, don't ya think?
Dravur
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Holy Crap, it's Gunsmoke...
Wow, around Colorado, that guy is known by gun people as the worst store in Colorado. Also, he employs fiends from Dante's Inferno to work on guns. I saw some of the work his chimps did.... scope holes that would not line up, a slide buggered so badly that the gun was useless.. And what was his response? a Big FU.
Seriously, Rich gives gun store owners a bad name. Heck, he would give cannibals a bad name.
And after what he did to his first wife, I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
I won't be watching his show. He is a self aggrandizing moron who will rape a customer at the drop of a hat.
Oh, and a friend of mine, who is relatively famous here in CO, told me that Rich likes to slide up to celebrities and have his picture taken with them to post in his store. He is the slimiest Huckster this side of Obama. He said that the Pic of him and said celebrity is no way an endorsement of Rich and his merry band of morons.
I haven't been in his store since he moved from Wadsworth. I never bought a single thing from him and I make sure that everyone I know will not deal with him.
Dr. Rob, I would rather give you a gun than have you go into Gunsmoke and get taken over the counter. They don't use lube.
Seriously, this guy is worse than Cal's Sporting Armory when they were in biz.
If you buy a gun from him, after he raids your account, he burns a kitten alive. He is lower than wormcrap.
Wow, around Colorado, that guy is known by gun people as the worst store in Colorado. Also, he employs fiends from Dante's Inferno to work on guns. I saw some of the work his chimps did.... scope holes that would not line up, a slide buggered so badly that the gun was useless.. And what was his response? a Big FU.
Seriously, Rich gives gun store owners a bad name. Heck, he would give cannibals a bad name.
And after what he did to his first wife, I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
I won't be watching his show. He is a self aggrandizing moron who will rape a customer at the drop of a hat.
Oh, and a friend of mine, who is relatively famous here in CO, told me that Rich likes to slide up to celebrities and have his picture taken with them to post in his store. He is the slimiest Huckster this side of Obama. He said that the Pic of him and said celebrity is no way an endorsement of Rich and his merry band of morons.
I haven't been in his store since he moved from Wadsworth. I never bought a single thing from him and I make sure that everyone I know will not deal with him.
Dr. Rob, I would rather give you a gun than have you go into Gunsmoke and get taken over the counter. They don't use lube.
Seriously, this guy is worse than Cal's Sporting Armory when they were in biz.
If you buy a gun from him, after he raids your account, he burns a kitten alive. He is lower than wormcrap.
If he is as bad as some people are saying he is, how does he have such a big business? It stands to reason that he must have SOME loyal customers. Being a cocky self promoter is one thing, but being a dishonest scumbum is another. If the latter is true, then I doubt his business and show will be around very long.
Dravur
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I dunno, How did Bernie Madoff get so many clients?
Because no one knew he was a thief until it was too late. He furnished clients with fictitious returns.
Investors who redeemed got their money back until there was a stampede for the exits. Typical Ponzi scheme.
With a brick and mortar gun store, you need return customers. If he was so unscrupulous, people would not return. I know nothing of this guy, only playing devil's advocate.
Investors who redeemed got their money back until there was a stampede for the exits. Typical Ponzi scheme.
With a brick and mortar gun store, you need return customers. If he was so unscrupulous, people would not return. I know nothing of this guy, only playing devil's advocate.
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