American Legion Bans Guns!
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Ohen Cepel
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Sounds like the local Legion board made a bad decision out of ignorance. If I was a member there they would have to change our I would cancel my membership with them and go to the local VFW. I would also make it clear why I was leaving and take all with me who wanted to go.
Yes, they can make their own rules, and I can leave. Worse in this case was if they did it out of ignorance which seems to be the case.
I don't drink and carry, but may have other reasons to go there (dinner, bingo, community events) and should not have to disarm.
Yes, they can make their own rules, and I can leave. Worse in this case was if they did it out of ignorance which seems to be the case.
I don't drink and carry, but may have other reasons to go there (dinner, bingo, community events) and should not have to disarm.
walking arsenal
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This is correct. I just re-learned this in my CCW renewal class last week.
Says the guy from Colorado. Hey! How's that mag ban working out for you all out there?
oneounceload
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Or Switzerland, England, Scotland, Spain, Argentina, and on and on - only here is it a big deal
jcwit
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Could that be the very reason they put the restrictions on firearms. Didn't realize they had such freedom regarding firearms.
Booze, auto's, & firearms do not mix, one needs to only look at our traffic fatalities.
Nothing like a drunk behind the wheel.
Nothing like a drunk behind the trigger.
Booze, auto's, & firearms do not mix, one needs to only look at our traffic fatalities.
Nothing like a drunk behind the wheel.
Nothing like a drunk behind the trigger.
oneounceload
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Who said anything about being drunk?
jcwit
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Post # 15 was the first mention of it.
Nite.
Grizzlyatoms
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I don't drink, I like to talk to vets like myself. It is total BS to me.
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dogtown tom
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I'm only surprised that someone would try and correlate one with the other.
Unlike a concealed firearm, smoking and smokers are nasty smelling and offensive.
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Factories in Germany have vending machines with beer like ours have soda pop and water with a half a vitamin pill disoolved in it. Even New York City COPS are allowed to have alcohol at lunch.
Congratulations, welcome to the brainwashed nanny state! Oh, and I agree -- no guns in the hands of crazy, lone wolf, veterans.
Congratulations, welcome to the brainwashed nanny state! Oh, and I agree -- no guns in the hands of crazy, lone wolf, veterans.
jcwit
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So this makes it OK?
The Netherlands has legal drug use and prostitution, so we should do the same?
Whats brainwashed?
lobo9er
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For those taking up for the American Legion do you also support not carrying in movie theaters, parks, dept. stores. It is not "illegal" to carry in a bar and just because I am going to a bar or legion does not mean I am drinking. I have been to plenty of private parties being held at American Legion's where I had nothing more that some chips and dip.
If you don't support personal responsibility to decide when it is appropriate. Than you are open to 2nd Amendments restrictions and that leads people thinking they know better than others. And know when people should have firearms and what types and where they can have them. And that sounds a lot like the attitude of NY down state politicians.
If you don't support personal responsibility to decide when it is appropriate. Than you are open to 2nd Amendments restrictions and that leads people thinking they know better than others. And know when people should have firearms and what types and where they can have them. And that sounds a lot like the attitude of NY down state politicians.
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lobo9er
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we do for those wealthy enough to have expensive lawyers. And where has our "war on drugs" gotten us? Legal pharmaceuticals are as big a problem in the US as illegal drugs. People I have known with drug problems got their OXY and other types of "legal drugs" from a doctor. And lets not even dive into mood stabilizers. Lets keep this conversation about guns. That is what the OP has brought up NOT the Netherlands stance on drugs.
jcwit
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Its obvious I was making a comparison of drinking and drug use being OK in other countries as someone else brought up, in relation to firearms, at least I thought it was obvious.
Well said. This isn't about drinking and carrying it's about businesses that encourage people onto their premises but want to strip them of their Rights.
And that is the reason I boycott the places I know that do this such as Jared's jewelers, buffalo wild wings, Toys R Us, etc.
It's a shame though that a veteran's based organization has stuped this low.
Why do so many assume that because you might be a member and go there that you are going to consume alcohol? Just because it is present doesn't mean one HAS to partake. Most responsible gun owners wouldn't if they were carrying. Some probably don't just because they do not drink.
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This is another example of a feel good rule, if some dumb ass gets wasted while carrying you drop the hammer on him, don't F me or anyone else,because someone might get drunk while carrying.
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lilguy
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A social club serving alcohol to a group, where some are having having trouble with PTSD,
does not allow CC? They have decided as a group that this is a sound policy, it's their right to do so.
does not allow CC? They have decided as a group that this is a sound policy, it's their right to do so.
lobo9er
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No offense but that sounds like words directly from Schumer. If they ban LEGAL guns than they should be boycotted like everyother business that does so in my opinion.
Let me ask you is that sign going to stop a "PTSD" individual from bring in a bat, knife, and or gun and doing something stupid. The short answer is obviously no. Its stops some one trying to follow the rules.
If you support this you support GUN CONTROL.
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It is a proven fact that signs stop crazy people with guns, not an armed, trained person. Just another Gun Free Zone full of victims.
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dogtown tom said:
Then you completely missed my point.
Saloons/bars/pubs have traditionally been places where people could let their hair down. We could mingle, engage in conversation, gamble a bit, have a few drinks, explore the possibilities for a romantic interlude, enjoy a smoke, and yes, carry a weapon.
They were places where men could act and expect to be treated like men, ladies could act and expect to be treated like ladies, and everyone knew which were which. Nobody worried about being PC.
Not so much these days. Now pub owners (or the governments that control them) ban smoking, guns, off-color jokes...
I wonder how long it'll be before bars start forbidding alcohol consumption.
oneounceload
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We already have - prostitution has been legal in NV for over 100 years and legal use of formerly illegal drugs occurs in several states - so WHAT?
Equating having a drink or two with falling-down drunk only seems to happen on gun boards. I have been to many gun clubs where they have a full-service bar in the main clubhouse - again, so what? Don't drink? Good for you, but stop playing nanny to everyone else. With freedom comes responsibility, it is an individual's responsibility to act accordingly, not some government agency dictating the terms of restrictions - or at least it was when this country was founded
jcwit
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You need to explore history a little more.
Even the Earps posted sign about checking in your guns before entering town, and PC was not an issue then, IIRC. This is only one example.
So that makes it OK for the rest of the country? So What? Might as well OK these two, the moral decay is almost completed anyway.
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