Colt Marked ASM v/s Colt 2nd Gen

[Crawdad1]

The regulation does not specify as far as I read Elhombre that the 'Proof Mark' must be visible only it has to be there somewhere on the firearm if built overseas. On my old Hatfield rifle the barrel was made by Pedersoli and the proof mark was stamped on the underside of the barrel and was not visible.

 

[Crawdad1]

I cannot find anything on that lawsuit or actions against ASM by Colt.

 

[Jim K]

Faking is hardly new; the repros just make it easier. Many years ago, one of the collector magazines had a cartoon of a gun show customer looking at a revolver; the dealer is saying, "Of course it is original; it says right there on the barrel - Patent Arms M'g. Co. Paterson, N.J. 07501."

Jim

 

[StrawHat]

Fingers and others,

Wouldn't Doctor Davis have some information on this?

Kevin

 

[Crawdad1]

"Of course it is original; it says right there on the barrel - Patent Arms M'g. Co. Paterson, N.J. 07501."

Colt address complete with a zip code, now that's funny!!

 

[perldog007]

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE[/VIDEOI]

I know what's happening here .....

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

I just received the cased Wells Fargo that I bought on GB.

It, like the ASM's, has a Colt barrel address but instead of the ASM pyramid has the Uberti gun muzzle/U logo under the barrel.

It also has "Colts Patent No ____" on the cylinder as well as "W F & Co" on the butt strap and has all the Italian proofs.

It, like all of my Colt marked ASM's, is date code marked "AP" for 1986.

There is another AP code, cased Uberti Wells Fargo (SN 0755) on GB for a lot more than I paid (it is listed as of COLT manufacture and was owned by "Stagecoach" star Dale Robertson) but the picture of the top barrel flat does not show the two line Colt address that mine (SN 0707) has.

The Uberti stainless prototypes with brass guards that are selling on GB are all date coded "AD" for 1978 and are all Colt barrel address marked.

Fingers McGee - I believe you said the ALL stainless Uberti's that you are collecting are from the early eighties. That puts them in between the prototypes and the AP's I'm finding. Do any of them have Colt markings too?

 

[Fingers McGee]

The all stainless Colt models that I'm searching for and collecting were made between 1983 (AL) and 1987 (AS) from the information I currently have. They were possibly made in 1982 also; but I have no definitive evidence to support that. They do not have any Colt markings - even to the extent that the Colt's Patent marking on the cylinder of some of them has been scratched off.

IINM, the bright metal Wells Fargo editions barrels are polished in the white, not stainless.