Another good powder score today

[Peter M. Eick]

I got lucky and found 8 lb jug of Clay Dot and 8 lb jug of Red Dot today!

$139/jug.

I have been looking for Clay dot for about 2 years now I think and never seen it in person. I am looking to replace my clays usage with Clay Dot. The red dot has been my standard fall back 12 gauge powder so I can work on some Claydot loads and make some more Red Dot loads.

I am looking forward to getting back on the MEC and making 12 gauge again. I have garbage bags for off hulls just waiting for me.

YEAH!

Now I just need find some 8 lb jugs of 2400, 4227 and another 4756 (I already have almost 20 lbs of 4756 stashed around at friends houses but heck 8 more lbs would not hurt..

 

[Walkalong]

Now I just need find some 8 lb jugs of 2400,

I imagine half of us here would like to find some 2400.

Congrats on the 8 pounders.

 

[forestswin]

I imagine half of us here would like to find some 2400.

Congrats on the 8 pounders.

exactly - I was getting real worried, but found 2 one pounders of 2400 on the way home from work at a LGS

 

[Bush Pilot]

I got lucky and found 8 lb jug of Clay Dot and 8 lb jug of Red Dot today!

$139/jug.

I have been looking for Clay dot for about 2 years now I think and never seen it in person. I am looking to replace my clays usage with Clay Dot. The red dot has been my standard fall back 12 gauge powder so I can work on some Claydot loads and make some more Red Dot loads.

I am looking forward to getting back on the MEC and making 12 gauge again. I have garbage bags for off hulls just waiting for me.

YEAH!

Now I just need find some 8 lb jugs of 2400, 4227 and another 4756 (I already have almost 20 lbs of 4756 stashed around at friends houses but heck 8 more lbs would not hurt..

You better check again. There's some guy on Craig's list in Houston selling 20# of 4756. Your friend?

 

[Catshooter]

Mmm, Red Dot. Sweet powder. I load the 30-30 with a Lyman 311008 over five grains of it. Grandson loves the load and is learning to shoot with it. No recoil and very accurate. Quiet too.

One hundred thirty nine dollars! Very nice. I haven't seen a price like that in a while.


Cat

 

[FROGO207]

As Peter E has proved if you are patient and look around, the reloading supplies are slowly coming back. The ones that put what they wanted on back order some time ago seem to be the smarter ones this time around. Go figure. Hopefully everyone will get their fill of stockpiling soon and we will be back to whatever passes for normal.

 

[Winchester 70]

And here I thought I was lucky finding one pound of TiteGroup

Good Score!!!!!

 

[Potatohead]

You're still pretty lucky, I'd like to find a lb of titegroup.

 

[Walkalong]

I have most of a pound I may never use. Too bad I can't ship it.

 

[Peter M. Eick]

They had 8 lbs of titegroup. I don't use it so it sat on the shelf.

Thanks for the tip on the 4756 and 20 lbs on Craig's list. I will go on the hunt for it.

I have mixed feelings on 4756 though. If Hodgdon's is stopping production, what good is 40 lbs of the stuff? All I am doing is putting off the inevitable problem of running out. I have so many 38/44's and 38 Super's to keep fed that I burn up a lot of 4756. I really need to come up with an alternative from a company that wants my business so I may stay with the 20 lbs I have already.

Looking at a burn rate chart (dangerous I know, but you have to start thinking somewhere) I see we have faster powders like Herco and 800X or VIHT n340 or slower Viht n540, 3n37 or n350. Blue dot and 2400 a lot slower. 2400 is a known 38/44 powder but is not normally thought of as a 38 super powder. So, i think VIHT powders are where I am heading next. For those wondering why I did not go for Autocomp (Winchester powder) is supplied by Hodgdon's. Since they are dropping my 4756, why play ball and buy their other powders if I can avoid it?

I will have to get out my quickload and spend an evening playing with it to figure out how to proceed. One nice thing will be to have a powder quickload understands. It never had 4756 in its database.

Finally, powder is definitely coming back. I am now building up supplies I have tapped down over the last 2 years. I made it through the tough spot with only minimal impact on my shooting and loading. It was getting "tight" though.

 

[Walkalong]

3n37

I use in in .38 Super to push a 124/5 Gr jacketed or TP plated bullet to 1300+ FPS using small rifle primers. I have pushed it to 1400 FPS, but that is starting to get primer swipe in my gun. I haven't tried N105 yet, but according to the Vihtavuori PDF it will give the most velocity. I have some, I just haven't tried it yet.

 

[Catshooter]

Peter,

2400 may not be normally thought of as a 38 Super powder but will it work as one? Just my opinion but there doesn't seem to be a huge difference between a Super and your 38/44 rounds.

2400 is a very versatile powder. I've never tried it in anything smaller than 38 special but from there up it works very, very well. Not temperature or position sensitive. Doesn't have to be loaded 90% or better like H110/296.

I don't know if you reload rifles but it works well in many of those too. Often quite accurate.

Just a thought.


Cat

 

[Peter M. Eick]

I was lucky enough to score another 8 lbs of 4756 that I will pick up monday. This gives me about 2 years supply of 4756 (32 lbs) unopened so I will just defer this problem down the road a few years and see where things are at then.

I did conclude this weekend that 6 grns of herco is reasonable but a bit stout so i need to chrono it to see where we are at in the 38/44.

 

[Rico567]

"Peter M. Eick" says: "Finally, powder is definitely coming back. I am now building up supplies I have tapped down over the last 2 years. I made it through the tough spot with only minimal impact on my shooting and loading. It was getting "tight" though."

Yeah, I was one of the ones who stockpiled adequate quantities after the COOTWH* was elected the first time and there was a smaller squeeze on supplies. This time, there must be people out there who are so backed up they've had to reinforce the closet floor, and/or are parking cars on the street instead of the garage. As you point out, though, all one need do is find a place online that takes backorders, and proceed accordingly....

*Current Occupant Of The White House

 

[Peter M. Eick]

I was wrong and did not stockpile early on. I just had a reasonable supply and slowly burned it up. I was getting down toward the end and now I am able to find a lot of 8 lbs containers so I am in better shape now.

For me the "crisis" has past. I can probably go 18 months before I "need" to buy powder again. But if 4227, 2400 or 4756 crops up, I would grab more 8 lbs containers and job them out to my storage buddies.

 

[rsrocket1]

I had a chance to buy 8# Red Dot for $119+ tax last November in Reno, but passed it up because the chain wasn't having a "no tax" sale like my local store the same weekend. Oh well, I'll just have to hope the 5# I have left will last until I find some more.

Clay Dot is a very good substitute for Clays. Hint: Titewad is also very close to Clays in performance (grain for grain, not by volume, it's a lot more dense)