Another professional wounds himself with a Glock .40

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How's that trigger safety working out?
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No offense, but that is an ignorant statement. Pulling the trigger on ANY gun, while pointed in an unsafe direction, and not knowing the condition of the weapon (loaded/unloaded) is plain dumb (correct that - criminally dumb and negligent) no matter what.

I personally know of a Soldier that had an ND with a 1911 (everyone's favorite platform!), under the most absurdly stupid of situations where he was TOLD it was loaded and still pulled the trigger!!!! To say "it can happen to anyone" is carelessly wrong. It only happens to people that are wrecklessly careless. Ahh the stories I could tell...
 
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Of course Glocks are dangerous, they wouldn't be much good if they weren't.

Unfortunately, people make them needlessly dangerous through operator error.

I don't own a Glock and I won't bash it when it's obviously not the guns fault.
 
9mmepiphany, I don't understand what you mean here about Glocks and revolvers, though I know what a DAO action is.

Are you saying some officers do not realize the Glock is striker fired rather than hammer fired?

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"I'm thinking they believed the Range Master when they were issued their guns and told they were DAO, just like your revolver...NOT.

I do see it as a training issue. That is why Glock used to send teams out to departments to train their staff when they first transitioned to the Glock. Their labeling of their action as DAO has really helped their acceptance in the LE community, but there is a downside to not understanding that use of that nomenclature was a rule beater "
 
They did the same thing with Revolvers but if no one was hurt it wasn't reported. There are plenty of holes in cars. It's careless people not bad guns.
 
Are you saying some officers do not realize the Glock is striker fired rather than hammer fired?
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What I'm saying is that when you say "DAO, just like a revolver" to someone who carried a revolver for most of their career, What they hear is, "It has a 10-12lb trigger pull that has a lot of travel built into it (why NYPD asked for the NY-1 trigger module on their G19s) and if it doesn't fire, just pull the trigger again"

There are plenty of holes in cars. It's careless people not bad guns.
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Never underestimate what non-gun people will do to guns. It wasn't too uncommon to find car mounted shotgun barrels used as ashtrays or trashcans
 
-Shannon told Patrolman Shanesha Emmons he placed a loaded magazine into the newly purchased handgun then put his left hand over the barrel when the weapon discharged.


And you know that evil self firing handgun was just waiting for his southpaw to cover the muzzle only to blow a hole in him...it must have been pissed to have left the warmth and comfort of its display case.
 
The OP is more a testament to the skill level of the average cop than it is to the actual gun. My neighbor is an LEO and he recently had a ND inside the house (his gun even had a manual safety). Luckily, nobody was hurt. I invited him to the range one time and he informed me that he hadn't fired a gun in over 6 months! And he is full-time permanent, not a temp.

Ironically, he is trusted to carry a gun every single day.
 
I have friends in Law Enforcement that come shoot with me to get tips, I've been amazed at the amount of times I have seen very poor safety habits in them.

One time at a friends private range one of them covered me and my buddy so many times with his muzzle with the saftey off, finger on trigger and the AR in ready to fire mode that my friend threated to shoot him if he did it again.

I think the officer should be charged and prosecuted just like any other citizen would be. Police officers are civilians and citizens and though they think they are above the law, they are not.
 
The local sheriff's department has had at least two and maybe three firearms related accidents within the last 12-18 months.
 
So you admit to making deliberately false statements in order to inflame those who know what you're saying is incorrect?

Where I'm from, there's a name for that: Trolling.
 
So you admit to making deliberately false statements in order to inflame those who know what you're saying is incorrect?
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Not at all. Where did you get that from what I wrote?
I admit making true statements that I know will inflame those who know what I say is correct, but doesn't fit their opinion.
Evidently, like you.
 
It aint easy to have an accident like this. I hope the cop s involved will get better.
 
The question is whether ND accidents happen more often with Glocks than with other pistols. If 30% of LEOs carry Glocks and they have 30% of the accidents, then no, Glocks are not especially dangerous. If 30% carry Glocks and they have 60% of the accidents, then yes.

Without all the number, you're just guessing.
 
Not at all. Where did you get that from what I wrote?
I admit making true statements that I know will inflame those who know what I say is correct, but doesn't fit their opinion.
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Your first post was clearly meant to be inflammatory, and upon re-reading it, you're right, I take back what I said about making a comment that's deliberately untrue. There would actually have to be some usable content in the post, rather than just a snarky rhetorical question for that to be the case.

Evidently, like you.
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I don't care one way or another what operating system people prefer to use in a firearm. I'm certainly not a Glock fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. That said, the Glock system has proven to be a robust and functional one for anyone with enough functional synaptic connections to realize that following basic safety procedures is a good idea.
 
Could happen with any gun, it being a Glock .40 is nothing too crazy considering how many ill-trained LEO carry one. This is something that could even happen to someone carrying a Nagant 1895. I am not biased towards Glock by the way, I don't even like them because of how they feel in my hand. But just because they don't feel right in my hand doesn't make it a bad gun.
 
A wise man once told me "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch." Funny how people who have a ND are so quick to say "It just went off."

Since the gun was likely brand new or refurbished, I will risk assuming it was in good working order. I own a Glock simply for the reason that it just plain works. If a round is in the chamber it will fire every time.

It shouldn't surprise me that a lot of LEO's aren't "gun guys", but I would think that more would be since it is a tool you must be intimately familiar with in the line of duty.
 
I'm certainly not a Glock fanboy by any stretch of the imagination.
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Okay, me neither. I will admit they are reliable, durable, and inexpensive firearms.
Before I get anyone wound up, I see a safety mounted on the frame as being a real safety.
Safety on, pull the trigger, no bang. Same with a slide mounted safety.
But a trigger mounted safety? Pull the trigger, bang.
Now in this case, a lot of things had to be done wrong. Obviously, he pulled the trigger, obviously he didn't clear his weapon, and most importantly, he had it aimed at a person he didn't intend (we presume) to shoot.
He would have done the same thing with a double action with no safety.
I hope the victim recovers.
 
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