Any update on the Hudson h9?

[greyling22]

So about a year ago hudson folded and I heard assests would be liquidated. Does anybody know what happened since then? Are they still in legal limbo, have the assests been sold, and most importantly, did the patents and ip get sold to anybody interesting? Seems like something a somewhat botique 1911 maker might like. Para ordinance maybe? Kimber? Heck, it might be something Colt could bring out, you know, since their 1911's aren't moving and their ar15 market is shuttered to civilians.

 

[dogtown tom]

So about a year ago hudson folded and I heard assests would be liquidated. Does anybody know what happened since then?

Their bankruptcy case was closed last May. They had no assets.

Are they still in legal limbo, have the assests been sold, and most importantly, did the patents and ip get sold to anybody interesting?

It's dead, Jim.

Seems like something a somewhat botique 1911 maker might like. Para ordinance maybe?

Para has been dead longer than Hudson.

Kimber? Heck, it might be something Colt could bring out, you know, since their 1911's aren't moving and their ar15 market is shuttered to civilians.

No one is running after any Hudson patents. When a gun doesn't sell, doesn't work there aint a lot of value in the idea.

 

[jonnyc]

I tried one we got used in the shop. Absolutely awesome grip feel, but the trigger was weird and the shooting was ho-hum. Glad I got to shoot one but no big deal.

 

[greyling22]

Huh, I didn't know para was dead. I knew they had been gobbled up by Remington/Cerberus, but then I lost track. I'm not really a 1911 guy. Sorry to hear Hudson's ideas are dead. It was new and different, and that's rare in the gun world.

 

[Archer]

With respect, I think there are plenty of "new and different" ideas in the gun world- what's less common is "new, different, and better"- and even more rare is "new, different, better and well executed".

 

[Tallball]

Even "new, different, and functions properly" seems kind of rare.

 

[MechAg94]

I have an H9. My pistol works pretty damn well. I never had any significant problems with it. The recoil is smooth. The 1911 style trigger is really good. I also lucked out and got some 17 round mags from them before they closed everything down. I heard part of their business problems is they wanted to jump into it whole hog and make a lot of guns when they were still a pretty small company and outsourcing all their production. They might have been better off keeping the volume lower. They were selling guns, just not enough to keep up with what they were trying to do.

The pistol has the little safety catch on the trigger, but I do sort of wish they had a thumb safety option. The cut out is there in the frame to add a 1911 style safety, but to my knowledge, they never offered that. With a trigger that light, it is something I would consider even though I don't normally have one on my guns.

KE Arms is making replacement parts. (kearms.com) They also have threaded barrels and the aluminum frame that Hudson was working on. I know of at least one youtube video showing how to switch over. It isn't cheap.


As far as other guns makers, Dan Wesson just came out with their DWX pistol which looks like a CZ 75 SP01 with a 1911 trigger and slide. Not sure if they got the idea from Hudson, but I like the effort to combine those features.

 

[JR24]

I tried one we got used in the shop. Absolutely awesome grip feel, but the trigger was weird and the shooting was ho-hum. Glad I got to shoot one but no big deal.

Had the same experience with the one I shot. Really liked how it felt in the hand but it just didn't shoot well. Barely could hold 4-6" at 7 and 10 yards, which is pretty bad accuracy in my hands.

As far as other guns makers, Dan Wesson just came out with their DWX pistol which looks like a CZ 75 SP01 with a 1911 trigger and slide. Not sure if they got the idea from Hudson, but I like the effort to combine those features.

I'm thinking they were more thinking to snatch some of the EDC X9 market with the compact and the full size seems pretty solidly geared towards competition.

Adding flat triggers and extended and/or lowered safeties to CZ and Tanfo to make it feel more like the 1911 grip has been a thing for a while, though some may say those mods were for other reasons

 

[kemikos]

Mine is a great shooter mechanically, though as others have mentioned it seems to be slightly less accurate to me - not as bad as others have reported, but noticeable. On the other hand, I haven't really shot it enough to get really familiar with it, the way I am with the guns I'm comparing it to, so YMMV. Once Hudson went belly-up and the component manufacturers started selling off their stock of parts, I bought a few of the parts with known issues as replacements and put everything in the back of the safe.

Actually shooting the gun is great though. Feels like it was made for me. Love the trigger (not quite as much as the 1911, but definitely better than other striker guns), and between the heavy frame and low bore, the sights just want to line right back up all on their own after each shot, it seems like.

An "H9 2.0" from an alternate timeline where they were able to survive long enough to put out a revised model addressing all the little "gremlins" is my no-kidding dream gun.

 

[greyling22]

I'd love to get my hands on a dwx. I also want to see the sar k12x and the laugo alien.

 

[gralewaj]

I'd love to have a safety for mine, the 1911 style grip just begs for it. I thought they did offer it for sale at some point, but last I checked, before they closed, it was out of stock.

 

[SimonRL]

If yo want to try something new-ish and different that shoots like a champ Che k out the Archon Type B. Cool looking and phenomenal to shoot.

 

[upptick]

[QUOTE="No one is running after any Hudson patents. When a gun doesn't sell, doesn't work there aint a lot of value in the idea.[/QUOTE]

The story I heard is that they got a bunch of orders for the H9 and before they had delivered very many of them they announced the H9ii, some kind of aluminum variant. A bunch of the original orders were canceled at that point, apparently because most of the customers thought they'd prefer the later model. The problem was Hudson needed the capital from the sales of their first model to finance the second model and with no sales at all, well we know how that goes. In other words, it sounds like the company had some good engineers but some lousy business people....