Anyone carry DA/SA auto with safety off?

[Halo]

I was wondering about similar designs to the P64 as well. Presumably, a Bersa or PPK would be in the same boat as far as carrying without the safety engaged since they appear to be like designs?

Not sure about your pistol, but once I got home I took a look at my Bersa and noticed what hoosier8 described. When the safety lever is engaged, a camming surface comes up behind the firing pin and prevents the hammer from being able to reach it. Presumably if that were disengaged, the hammer could strike the firing pin if the pistol hit the ground at just the wrong angle. Would that be enough to cause a discharge? I don't know, so I'm going to carry the Bersa with the safety on.

Does your P64 have a similar camming action on the safety lever?

 

[telecaster1981]

Indeed it does...but geez, I really don't want to have to mess with that safety in case of an emergency! Guess it's time to track down an SP101...

 

[Halo]

After a closer look at the Bersa it appears that with the trigger reset, as it would be during carry, the hammer still can't get to the firing pin, even with the safety off. Check yours out, it's probably the same.

 

[Don357]

I have 2 sa/da pistols, a TZ99 9mm, that doesn't have a safety but does have a firing pin and hammer block built in and a Witness Polymer Compact .45, which has both of the blocks, a half cock and a safety which is good for "cocked and locked" carry, which I don't feel comfortable with,and that's why I don't carry a 1911. With the hammer down the safety is redundant and something else to remember in an "UH-OH" situation.

 

[Autolycus]

My preference is for DA/SA guns with no safeties. I am a big fan of Sigs in this configuration. I feel it is perfectly safe in this configuration.

To each their own though.

 

[FEG]

All my DA/SA's are SIG's and only have decockers-only, and my 2 Beretta's both have been converted to G-models, decockers-only, as well..

So, as long as you have the safety up and in-between your ears, and a holster for ccw that covers the trigger guard, mainly the trigger, you"re in good hands, your-own hands, with the safety-off.

You are 100% correct...with the pistols you just named.

Meanwhile, there are many things in heaven and earth undream't of in your philosophy, my dear Horatio.

Some pistols are designed to have the safety engaged in Condition 2, as they have no inertial firing pin or drop safety, and the safety obstructs the firing pin. The Radom P-64 happens to be one of them. This pistol is designed to be carried with the safety engaged. Do a quick search on YouTube, and you will find former Polish soldiers demonstrating the pistol.

 

[spiroxlii]

I'm as comfortable carrying my DA/SA Bersas with the safety/decocker lever in the OFF position as I would be carrying a DA revolver with no manual safety at all.

The long, relatively hard DA trigger pull should be enough to prevent an unintentional discharge as long as you don't do anything dumb with the gun.

 

[bensdad]

My wife carries a Bersa Thunder with the safety on. I carry a Taurus 745cond. 1.

 

[MICHAEL T]

I carry my Bersa Hammer down decocker off Have for few years. If you slowly start to cock the hammer it has a notch at same place hammer rest with decocker This can be used if you feel the need. If hammer fell from this position still not enough to fire . Many people carry on this notch. Majority of members at BT carry thunder Safety/Decocker off, chamber loaded. Other wise might as well carry a rev.

http://bersatalk.com

 

[spiroxlii]

It's not like it would be hard to turn the safety off on a Bersa Thunder 380 if you really wanted to carry it with the safety on, but it just doesn't feel like a natural movement to me. The 380 requires you to push the lever forward (it goes from pointing down to pointing at the muzzle). On the other hand, I could easily carry my Bersa Thunder 9 Ultra Compact with the safety on, because its safety lever has a similar placement to a 1911 safety lever. You can flip it off with an easy and natural downward sweep of the thumb.

I just carry them both with the safety off. I use the safety levers to decock them after I chamber a round, then I eject the magazine, top it off with a round to replace the one I just put in the chamber, and carry the gun with the DA safety and my brain to serve as safety mechanisms.

 

[FEG]

Just wondering if anyone carries their DA/SA semi-auto with the safety off. As of right now, I carry a Polish P64 which is almost exactly like a PPK in terms of function. The safety pushes up, which is not very fast or natural so I've been carrying with the safety off. Afterall, plenty of people carry DA revolvers that have no safety. What would be the difference?

I'll try this again. What other people do with other makes/models means absolutely nothing. The correct question is "is it safe to carry a P-64 in Condition 2 with the safety disengaged?" The answer to this question is...NO. What people do or don't do with their Bersas, SIGs, or Magnum Wangerdoodles is meaningless. They have different firing pin and safety mechanisms than the P-64.

 

[MICHAEL T]

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[woad_yurt]

I have a Makarov and the only way for it to fire is to pull the trigger. There is a hammer block which is in effect when the safety is off so, why bother with the safety?

 

[kayl]

My Sigs don't have safeties, just a decocking lever, so yes, I carry my DA/SA autos with safety off. No, I don't carry them cocked.

 

[FireArmFan]

I have an HK P2000 .40 V3. It doesn't have a manual safety. I carry it with one in the chamber, hammer decocked.

 

[saltydog452]

I'd not recommend carrying the PPK with the safety off. At least, I wouldn't carry it (again) in the hip pocket of a pair of jeans.

salty

 

[10-Ring]

I have several DA/SA pistols & routinely carry w/ safety off

 

[countryrebel]

da/sa hammer down safety off