Anyone else feel prices are high?

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Just curious if anyone else feels like prices are high right now. I do a lot of my purchases on gunbroker, but also check out the local gun shows and shops. I've been looking at everything from Glock 20, Saiga 12, Browning Maxus, Colt SAAs (which are hard to find although there was an article in Guns and Ammo about new 1873s coming out). It seems like sellers pricing is a tad high and they are not willing to negotiate.

Maybe its increased demand (or perceived demand) caused by the election - until thats over, I guess I'll shoot what I have and pay down some student loans.

Blonde
 
My philosophy on this is simple. On any given day any gun is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Looking at guns I bought decades ago I am amazed what some go for today considering what I paid for them. Especially many of the older revolvers.

Additionally, looking at things today guns seem to be appreciating at a much better rate than many of our investments. This makes for a nice path to follow when it comes to buying guns for the collection. My wife frequents shows with me and views many of the guns I buy as solid investments.

Just My Take...

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In my experience the asking prices on most internet sites are way too high but you don't have to purchase there. Some gun shops in my area are always high on the display tags but you can always ask if they will entertain a fair offer. The owner of one of the newer gunshops in my area tells customers to make an offer because he is there to sell stuff, not collect it. As has been said by others, something is worth what someone else will pay for it. I have found in all arenas of purchasing that patience is usually a virtue, unless you stumble upon a great deal.....:what:
 
My local pawn shop knows I like to haggle. Whenever I look at a gun in inventory, the proprietor always says "we'll save time, your price is X". Usually about 10% off the tag. :)
 
The online sellers consist of a large component of accumulators who feel no pressing need to sell at a realistic price. This seller/accumulator does not care whether the item sells or not. But, he is willing to take your money if you are willing to pay silly prices. Example: a guy on another forum trying to sell a set of "Cokes" N-frame grips for $450. Are you kidding me?!!!

When buying firearms, just like when buying cars, it is up to you to know the realistic present value of the item, and you must be willing to walk away when the seller demands a price in excess of the present value of the item.

The beauty of these forums is, if you have a pretty good description of the item, you can get pretty good feedback from other enthusiasts as to the true present value of almost anything.
 
Part of the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to ensure that we can defend our way of life.

We are merely witnessing capitalism in action.
 
It is not so much that prices are high but that money is cheap. Noticed the price of groceries and new cars lately? Guns are no different. Inflation of the currency hits every commodity market the same. As the value of the dollar shrinks the price of goods and services go up. This is just basic economics.
 
Budsgunshop seems to have lower prices than gunbroker I don't understand why people bother with the gunbroker hassle when Bud's has the same thing for cheaper and free shipping. Unless of course you're buying something unique that buds might not have. Shops around here (st louis area) are consistently higher than buds on new guns, but sometimes you kind find a good deal on an older used gun.

I have been told by a shop owner that the recent high profile shootings and the upcoming presidential election has definitely strained his supply. I don't think its any big secret that high demand and low supply lead to higher prices.
 
I see a new political party coming out, with a very boisterous figurehead: The MSRP is too damn high!
 
Anyone else feel prices are high?

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Just curious if anyone else feels like prices are high right now. I do a lot of my purchases on gunbroker, but also check out the local gun shows and shops. I've been looking at everything from Glock 20, Saiga 12, Browning Maxus, Colt SAAs (which are hard to find although there was an article in Guns and Ammo about new 1873s coming out). It seems like sellers pricing is a tad high and they are not willing to negotiate.

Maybe its increased demand (or perceived demand) caused by the election - until thats over, I guess I'll shoot what I have and pay down some student loans.

Blonde
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The LGS I frequent has had to go up on some prices. Plain Jane AKs used to sell for $499 and are now $600 to $650 and still moving out of inventory. I had a slight problem trying to find 7.62x39 SP from my normal suppliers but finally found some. Everything seems to be holding steady or a bit more in my area, more for food for sure.
 
When buying firearms, just like when buying cars, it is up to you to know the realistic present value of the item, and you must be willing to walk away when the seller demands a price in excess of the present value of the item.
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Not quite - it is when the seller asks a price that exceeds YOUR value of the item. I could care less about "tactical" guns - I fins the whole genre somewhat silly - so to ME the value of some tricked out Mossberg or similar might be $10, while to someone really into that, they might go over $600 when you add all the gizmos and gadgets on......VALUE is a personal thing, not set by anyone else, so whether something is "worth" it or not cannot be be determined by folks on the Net
 
I've always thought gunbroker prices were high. I haven't needed to check there in a while, but when friends ask me what a certain gun costs, I used to go to gunbroker to get an idea of worth if I didn't already know.

I guess it completely depends on what you're looking for and where you go to get it.
 
It's not a perceived increase in demand, it's more demand. In addition, monetary inflation over the last several years has become a dangerous force destroying the purchasing power of the dollar. Food prices have doubled in a not-so long period of time.
 
I've always thought gunbroker prices were high. I haven't needed to check there in a while, but when friends ask me what a certain gun costs, I used to go to gunbroker to get an idea of worth if I didn't already know.
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If you notice, 90%+ of items listed on GunBroker.com don't actually sell for a reason. That's just the nature of selling off items. We overestimate their value to, perhaps, justify their sale. I still see some dang good deals on there occasionally. You just have to be patient and flexible. If you go on there wanting a Browning BLR in .243 by next week, you're going to be paying a lot of money.
 
Prices are high in many cases, outstripping inflation/depreciated dollar - demand is strong right now, and has been for a while. In my case, rising prices across the board (arms, ammo, food, gas, other living expenses) has pretty much slowed down my purchases of firearms to a crawl.
 
I think prices are up quite noticeably on the premium brand products--but if one is willing to perform the proper research and get a comparable gun for a good deal they are still out there to be had. Truth be told most people will not buy a gun unless they have heard of that particular brand (hence the higher costs for these known vendors). IMO the one most recent example that comes to mind is the Arcus 98 which a lot of people have never heard of--it can be had for $325 OTD and I consider it to be every bit as good (in every way) as its contemporaries.
 
Not to me, I believe guns are cheaper now than they have ever been taking inflation in to account. I really don't see anything extraordinary in prices in either guns or ammunition.
 
Pure inflation.


2002

SKS Yugos were selling around $99

Gold was $320 an ounce

Silver was under $5 an ounce


September 9 2012

Yugo SKS in 2012 sells around $300

Gold $1735 a ounce

Silver $33.50 an ounce


SKS tripled in cost, but Gold over 5 times and silver over 6 times. Firearms went up less than precious metals.

I used Kitko for the Gold and Silver comparisons.
 
I offer to pay in cash and usually dealers will drop their prices - especially on used guns. But inflation is a reality right now. It reminds me of the seventies.
 
"Anyone else feel prices are high?"

Not me. Markets are what markets are. In a relative note, I would say that diesel is high in relation to gas but firearms in general? Not really. Some in fact are down right cheap for what they are... Ruger line, S&W M&P line, quality ARs, etc...
 
Pure inflation.


2002

SKS Yugos were selling around $99

Gold was $320 an ounce

Silver was under $5 an ounce


September 9 2012

Yugo SKS in 2012 sells around $300

Gold $1735 a ounce

Silver $33.50 an ounce


SKS tripled in cost, but Gold over 5 times and silver over 6 times. Firearms went up less than precious metals.

I used Kitko for the Gold and Silver comparisons.
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Good post
 
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