Anyone here a gun enthusiast and NOT a materialistic and/or competetive person?

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It occurs to me that I and my gun owning friends are all the types that lean toward the materialistic competitive side of things. We like our stuff; bigger & faster & better & nicer cars/houses/watches/tools/clothes/wives/kids/dogs/jobs, etc. We all like nice stuff (whether we have a lot of it or not), and to some extent try to outdo each other and "keep up with the Jones's". Now I'm sure that most PEOPLE in general ARE materialistic, but of course there's a small segment of the populace that doesn't care too much, and are happy with meager/spartan living and have NO desire at all to keep up with the Jones's (oh, to be like them). So just wondering though if gun ownership and liking nice things necessarily go hand in hand. Anyone here really like to own & shoot guns, but generally otherwise live a very simple / meager / spartan life? Anyone have both a Daewoo gun and a Daewoo car? :) :p
 
While some people near me are WAY out there (live in a converted livestock barn kinda out there), i guess that i am not part of the "materialistic" group. I lead a very simple life (relitivly) and can't afford very much on top. Unfortunatly, that includes guns:(:(:(

The guns i do buy though, are top of the line, for what i want. (hence the very expensive POF AR-15...) Or at lest as close as i can get/want.
 
I like guns and shooting...but I don't really care much about what anyone else has, much less try to keep up with them. because i Know i cant! :p
 
Guns as nice as I can afford. Some pretty nice.

94 Blazer that I'll drive until the wheels fall off. Never had a new car. :)
 
http://www.daveramsey.com/

"Debt is dumb, cash is king, and the paid-off home mortgage has replaced the BMW as the status symbol of choice."

I've had new cars. Don't care if I ever do again. Might, might not.

Don't care about what you have, either. "Keeping up with the Joneses" is one road to hell (and I'm not even religious).

And if I ever get really into watches that cost a significant portion of my income, I'd just admit that I thought my penis is too small.

I do choose to buy some guns here and there.

If I get competitive, and I do, it's not about what I do or don't buy.
 
Never thought of it just in the wayyou put it. This may be why I get in discussions regarding Lee Reloading tools, cheaper/inexpensive lines of scopes, ect.ect. To my way of thinking braging rights mean nothing, does the item get the job done as well as a more expensive one, if so its fine with me.

However the gun itself I want the best I can afford.

Regarding a mode of transportation I'm perfectly happy with my KIA, RIO as my "nice" car and an old Geo, Metro to get me around in the winter and back & forth from the range in the summer. To my way of thinking I no longer need to impress anyone and if what I have/do/or say, people do not like, not my problem. They either get over it or stay unhappy.

This is my attitude and my 2 cents, just don't take this wrong.
 
If I have the money, I'll spend it on some things.... but there's other things I could care less about.

Drive a 2004 Ford Explorer. Basic criteria: Room to haul cargo, backseat for the baby. (not really a baby 4 years later, but he's still riding in the backseat...)

Enjoy eating at nice restaurants whenever possible. Bit of an amateur food and wine connoisseur.

Enjoy looking nice, so I try to wear decent clothes. Still never spent more than $60 on a pair of jeans, and even that made me cringe.

Most expensive watch: $450 Citizen eco-drive, and that was a present from grandma (RIP)

I'm typing this on a brand-new $1100 laptop, but that was a gift also. Actually, my Dad bought it for himself, but couldn't even figure how to turn it on, so he figured he'd give it to me.

Now compare this against the crappy $500 desktop I have at home. I was too cheap to actually spend the money to buy something with a decent processor speed. Bought a killer 25" LCD monitor, though!

Moral of the story: The older I get (I'm 24), the less I care what anyone thinks about me or my "status." I'm more concerned with providing a decent life for my family.
 
My "new" car I bought Fall 07 is a 1998 Cavalier Z24, paid $1,800 for it.

I do have a 06 Kawasaki Ninja 500, but I traded a POS 4 wheeler to a guy that really wanted it.

My firearms....I have a bit more than the car and motorcycle are worth in my guns. But, each and every one has a specific use. I hunt year round. Turkeys, deer, squirrel, groundhogs, etc and each and every rifle/shotgun has a use in those areas.

I test myself every year to shoot a deer with all 4 major deer rifles. This year the .270 killed one (my girlfriend shoots the .270, I didn't do it), my 300 Win Mag took a few, and so did my 7mm Mag. My muzzle loader, did not get graced this year.
 
This is from a post I made a while back. The news of the day was about Paris Hilton going to jail. I noticed that no one at the IDPA match even mentioned her, even though it was all over the news.
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Now please, this is ONLY a generalization, but as a group we gun enthusiasts tend to be a little more logical minded than the average person. We tend to be more interested in THINGS than people.

Most people seem to be interested in personalities. They follow tabloid
gossip and love drama. They are very keen on pop culture and they practically worship celebrities.

Take for example the hottest show in country right now, American Idol.

For many people, their greatest fantasy and dream come true would be to be a celebrity. They seem very concerned with what other people think of them and are very group orientated.

Gun people, not so much. We like things and concepts related to things. We tend to have jobs and hobbies that reflect this. We are more likely to be head of maintenance than head of human recourses. We are more likely to be
engineers or work with computers than be councilors or social workers. We would be surgeons rather than pediatricians or psychiatrists, mow grass rather than wait tables. When we do watch TV it is likely the History channel or Discovery channel. We like to hunt, fish, ride motorcycles and participate rather than watch other people play sports.

Gun owners tend to be individualists and don't fit in with the collectivist mindset. That is why we usually are conservatives and libertarians rather than Democrats or socialists.
 
I tend to put more money into the mechanical systems of my house and into my house, in general.

I don't have fancy cars, but just average vehicles.

I only have a few guns (several of which are pretty nice, but definately not the best there is).
 
Well, aside from the influence marketing and advertising has on us all, it sounds like your asking about competitive materialism rather than real competitiveness. Nothing wrong with the former, I suppose - people are into guns for many different reasons, but in my experience, most real competitive types have recognized the difference and moved on to see the tool is simply a means to an end.

As for me, sure, I have a long list of will-own-someday. But the idea that I'll never really master even one of my guns helps keeps me grounded.
 
Sports competitive very much so; I have two speeds "all out" and "playing around". I'm in "playing around" 95% of the time because "all out" isn't real fun for me or the other team.

Materialistic not very much. I live in a house that is about 1/3 of what Ramsey says I could afford and the least expensive of all my peers. I have a $10 limit on shirts.

I do like quality and have began to buy nicer things (guns, scopes, tools, etc) as I get older and have the cash flow.
 
I see that a lot of the fun of gun ownership is choosing what you feel is the best of something (best shotgun, best .45, best hunting rifle, etc), and to a point, I enjoy that. However, I am a very utilitarian person, since I am low income and don't have a whole lot of choice in the matter, and so I'm not going out and buying expensive guns on a regular basis just for bragging rights. However, I will tell you with the utmost confidence that if I had the money to buy flashy "BBQ guns", I totally would.

My guns are purchased with the intent of getting the most gun I can out of my money. So I drive a Ford, and I carry an old used Sig that could really use to be reblued. It is the best of what I can afford, and it is reliable to a fault.

When you are poor like I am, flashiness or bragging rights aren't as important on the list as some other things. I wanted a good bolt action rifle, so I bought the absolute best Mosin Nagant M38 that I could find. It is the best of the cheapest. I made sure that it was the highest quality specimen I could find, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a $100 rifle.

I bought a CMMG AR-15. It is the best thing I could afford. It's no HK or LMT or Colt, but it is a very nice rifle that can easily take the maximum of 200 wolf rounds I can afford to put through it without a single hiccup.

So I think that the mindset is there in most people. Guys are attracted to guns in the same way that we are attracted to cars. It's a natural mechanical fascination, mixed with choices from best to worst, cheapest to most extravegant and so on. In any case, I think that we all like to buy the best things we can afford to buy, and you don't see people lining up around the corner to buy HiPoints (good guns, don't get me wrong, but they ain't pretty).

In most things I like to buy the best of the cheap. Kind of a healthy mix of taste and thriftiness. Double my income and I'll still be clawing up the ladder to the next best thing I can almost afford, lol.
 
Sir, you failed to specify which "Jones" family I am trying to keep up with.
If you're refering to Jim Jones, then no, I have no desire to move to South America and order all my followers to kill themselves.
If you're refering to John Paul Jones, then I might have the brass ba**s to take on a British war ship.
If you're refering to Jerry Jones, then He** yeah. I'd like to help pick the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Sign me up for keeping up with this Jones guy.
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We all like nice stuff...

That describes 100% of the planet's populace.
Ever met a person who hated nice stuff? If so, they were lying.

Anyone here really like to own & shoot guns, but generally otherwise live a very simple / meager / spartan life?

Yep, that's me exactly. In fact, I save up my annual gun money from recycling scrap metals.
 
Anyone here really like to own & shoot guns, but generally otherwise live a very simple / meager / spartan life?

That's me, I have more $$ tied up in a revolver than I do either one of the vans me or the Mrs. drive. What's bad is the revolver cost under $1000
 
I'm of the age (59) where status isn't important (not that it ever was). We live simply with little debt.
I do like quality items, so I don't mind putting out the $$ for a nice Ruger or Taurus or (for clothing) Filson (long lasting outdoor gear).
But I won't buy a new car and my house is just big enough for my wife, our dog and me.
No credit cards, so we pretty much pay as we go.
 
I'm a middle class self employed guy, not rich but definitely not poor. I have about 12 guns, all pretty nice but none are considered expensive. That pretty much reflects about every thing I own.
 
Dr. THW,

Anyone's friends are usually much like them, birds of a feather and all that.

THR is a much broader spectrum of society with the only thing in common, outside of firearms, is a relative independent streak.

I have friends that are avid shooters that make twice what I do and love their "things", cars, watches, vacations, etc. I have friends that are not interested in "things" at all, but are avid shooters, who would be considered relative ascetics. There are some here that live in yurts and drive diesel PU trucks powered with biodiesel and love wheel guns and lever guns and raves and others that live in comfortable suburban houses and drive Expeditions and are happiest watching the Superbowl.

I collect knives and guns, but I'm driving a 10 year old Rav4, don't even wear a watch, run an 8 year old computer and my cell phone is 2 generations old. I'd rather vacation where I can DO something instead of brag about where I stayed. I never cared much about "impressing" people with the things I had since I'm not impressed by people who are impressed with "things".
 
Owen Sparks!

Your post sent chills down my spine! That summoned up my unorganized observations about us gun owners in an excellent way. May I quote you? I recognize me, my girlfriend and most of my friends...

For myself, I enjoy the simple things in life. Hiking in the forest with my girlfriend, sharing a couple of beers with friends and of course sending 6.5 mm tracer bullets at things that breaks.. :)

I live very cheap in a small apartment (23 square meters), do not follow the latest fashion, seldom visit clubs, eat simple food, and have little interest in an impressive career.

Instead I use my money and energy on things I enjoy. Ammunition, physical fitness, my Mercedes SLK230, and for traveling outside this horrible excuse for a country...

May I recommend a nice beer for this tuesday evening? Gösser Bier from Austria. Excellent dry pilsner!

Cheers from Sweden!
 
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