Anyone loaded .22LR for 1km/s?

[Afy]

3260 fps is fairly easy to achieve with a .22-250 no issues. No recoil to speak of either.

Would it hit targets at 1000 M, if you are a good shot.. sure..
Want practise with a .22lr.. shoot paint balls at 100 m, you would be surprised how difficult it is to get one to explode.

 

[Jim Watson]

Dave,

Like I said, I shoot a .40-65 with a 400 grain bullet at 1200 fps from an 11 pound Browning BPCR because the same gun in .45-70-500 just kicks the dickens out of me. For that matter, I would not be shooting the .40 if my .38-55 knocked down the 500 metre rams reliably. Ringing that kind of steel does not count.
Maybe I am a wimp, there were shooters with up to .45-90-540 at the Southern Regional Mid-Range championships and they seemed to hold up pretty well. But I cannot imagine shooting any number of full power loads in a Marlin, much less magnumized nitro ammo.

 

[fireman 9731]

I always perceived the recoil of my 45-70 as more of a shove than a kick, even with moderate loads. Shooting black powder or equivalent loads seems like a breeze to me... but then again, I'm young, 6'2'' and 275lbs.

 

[MichaelK]

Bigalexe
How about a .17HMR? The 1km/sec is just a round number, not something you HAVE to achieve. A 25 grain .17 bullet is going at about 750 mps (2550 fps) and has next to no recoil. One hundred yard targets are easy with a .17. What would you want to shoot at that out 600 yards anyway?

If you decide you really need a bit more umph to get out there, there are lots of low recoild choices to select from. In terms of buying factory ammo, you could select the .204 Ruger, .22Hornet, .222 Remington, .223 (that's 5.6X45). If you eventially want something for both target and hunting you could work up to .243/6mm.

To start with, I think you're a lot better off sticking with buying factory ammo than trying to make your own. I'd buy one of the above calibers that has cheap ammo you can buy in bulk.

 

[627PCFan]

Get a 26" Swede w/full bull barrel and live a long and happy life-

 

[justashooter in pa]

There is no doubt whatsoever that a soldered together case would seperate the first time it was fired.

As I said earlier, it was a cobbled together joke making the rounds of the gun mags many years a go.

rc

somebody needs to read a bit more. cases made from components soldered together date back to the 1870's, and joint failure was not the issue that resulted in their abandonment. it was simply less expensive to form brass in single blanks, once the process had been refined and automated. IIRC, maynard cases were soldered from multiple components until the turn of the century.

 

[rcmodel]

somebody needs to read a bit more.

Well thanks for the suggestion.
But I have read a little bit about guns, I guess.

Perhaps you are the one who should go back and read Post #8 in this thread.

We were not talking about 1870's black powder cases.
(which were soldered copper foil strip, not brass by the way)

We were talking about a .50 cal BMG case necked down to .224" caliber, and loaded to at least 50,000 PSI pressure or so.

rc

 

[Quoheleth]

To the OP:
What about the .17 HRM? It's supposed to be an excellent long-range bullet and very, very negligable recoil.

Edit to add: Sorry...someone beat me to it, about three posts earlier. Mea culpa...

Q

 

[millertyme]

Why the hell is it that when people start throwing around 6.5's they never mention a .264 Winmag? They're pretty damn available these days, Ruger has a current offering in that loading, better performance over other 6.5's, etc, etc. What's the deal?

 

[jmorris]

If you want to practice long range shooting and wind reading a .22 LR at 300 yards has about the same amount of bullet drop as a .308 at 1000 yards (156”).

 

[rogn]

The 223 as stated will work . An 1-8" will handle 77gr and most will andle 80gr. These can be found in AR form and are extremely accurate. A really serious longer ranger is the 22BR which with the appropriate twis can go 1000 yds with bullets up to 90 gr. Recoil in a 10# rifle is negligible and a heavy bench gun may not move at all. Ive seen 600 yd 5 shotgroups< 2 1/4". handloading unfortunately is the only way.

 

[Speedo66]

You can do 600 yards with a .223 with a 1/7 twist barrel and heavy match bullets.

There would be to little recoil to bother anyone in a heavy barrel bolt action or AR-15 rifle.

I presonally think you will find recoil intolerable with a 45-70 and 600 yard capable loads.

rc

I don't even enjoy standard 45-70 loads in my Trapdoor carbine. Of course it has a curved steel butt plate that could double as a medieval torture device.

 

[bigalexe]

Yeah a .17hmr would work, just hadn't thought of it.

I want to shoot long range because its utterly fascinating to me to be able to shoot a tiny little chunk of lead consistently out to 600yd. Now I know that downsizing targets to say a bottle cap at 100yd is essentially the same thing as making the range longer but something about shooting very long distances just seems so cool. In short: I'm an Engineering/Machining student and I like precision, increasing precision with a gun means smaller groups at longer ranges more consistently.

 

[~z]

Downsizing targets at shorter range is NOT the same. There is a whole lot more 'craft' involved at extended range. Short range small targets is just a precision game that requires an accurate rifle and a good shooter. Extended ranges require the shooter to account for changing atmospheric conditions among other things.
~z

 

[Ol` Joe]

Let me know when ya try the 17HMR at 600 yd. I`m likely within 45-60 minutes of your range at most, and would like to see how the wind works on those 17 gr bullets

 

[Ranb]

My LAR 50 bmg will do 1.5" groups at 200 yards, but the groups open up to ten inches at 550 yards. I really wish reduced targets at short range was the same, but I know it is not.

Ranb