Anyone shoot/own guns but not hunt?

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If I were ever to hunt for sport, it would be with bow and arrow.

I am not impressed...there is not much sport in that. You should have to just use your bare hands.

If you can hunt down an elk or bear or whatever with a bow and arrow or spear or knife or whathaveyou, then great! I'm impressed. But I see no sport what-so-ever in sniping animals at 300 yards with a high powered rifle and telescopic scope.

I am glad I don't need your approval. Spoken like someone that knows litttle or nothing about hunting. There is much more to hunting than sniping at 300 yards. Go back and read some of the other posts, or better yet, read a book on hunting.

I know way too many people that get hard over killing animals in this manner, and they're all the same.

You need to expand your circle of friends. I have never known a hunter that was like this.
 
I hunted more when I was younger and things weren't so crowded. Now I mostly limit myself to some duck hunting, with a little squirrel, dove or deer hunting thrown in from time to time.

I really, really miss the quail hunting we used to have. Speaking of used to have, there weren't any deer when I was growing up and my grandparents had 1500 apple trees back in the mountains. That's my excuse for never getting into whitetails.



"But I see no sport what-so-ever in sniping animals at 300 yards with a high powered rifle and telescopic scope."

Me either, it's much better to get them at the supermarket. :neener:

John
 
I find hunting to be boring ... its a lot of walking a little shooting. Kind of like Golf.

I've known hunters who will go through a box of ammo in a year ... a box! ... hell, I've gone through a box in under a minute before!


I have no interest in killing an animal for sport, but I don't hold it against those that do (in fact I believe hunting is a skill I would be better off if I had ... never know if you might have to hunt.
 
I've known hunters who will go through a box of ammo in a year ... a box! ... hell, I've gone through a box in under a minute before!
I've gone thru a whole season and not taken a shot. You have to understand that there's more to hunting than just pulling the trigger.

Nightspell, you really need to look at that greater-than-thou attitude of yours.
 
To all who have taken offense to my stance on hunting, I'd post a picture of my bare backside but my digital camera isn't hooked up.

I don't care how YOU justify it, I'm just saying I don't see the sport in it. If you're out hunting because you want or need food, then that's all well and good. That's like line fishing, in my opinion, with a lot more walking. I'm talking about people of the sort that I work with (I work with a lot of people) that go in groups of 5 or 10 people in Alaska and drop every sort of large game because they "like the sport of it". One guy's own words were "I just like shooting animals. Shooting targets gets boring". Then they go on to talk about how big the holes were and how many times they had to shoot it COM to kill it after it's down, because they don't want to ruin the head. So they take the head and leave the carcass there to rot. I don't give them grief about it, but if they ask me what I think about it I'll tell them without any shame. I have no delusions that I can change anyone's opinion of it. That's like standing at a podeum explaining to a mormon church why people should carry a gun. It's a lost cause and nobody wants to hear it.

When I say I can't condone it, I mean I can't justify it. There, how's that? Poor word choice, my fault. And get off the "holier than thou" box, don't you dare try to shame me after everyone jumps on my back for sharing my opinion. I didn't tell a single person not to hunt, I never have, and I never would.:rolleyes:
 
Nightspell

I don't know what kind of guys you work with, but I know a lot of people besides myself that hunt, and NONE of them are like the people you described. Not to mention that leaving game meat to rot is a felony in many states, and illegal in all states, IIRC.

Just my observation. Perhaps there's a whole other side to hunting that you haven't seen yet.
 
Thats kind of my point ... the only part that interests me is the trigger pulling
I guess that falls under the "it's a free country" thing then. There are plenty of other viewpoints on the issue, and it doesn't hurt anyone to give the other guy room to practice what appeals to them on the issue of hunting. I would agree that there is more to hunting than pulling the trigger. A lot more.
 
Wow this thread grew.

My main point was that I there seems to be a connection to firearms and hunting. At least the people I know and from the feedback I get in the gun rags. People who hunt own and enjoy firearms. I thought I was a minority, that I owned firearms but didnt hunt. Guess I was wrong.
 
Just had to throw my 2 cents in

Mainly because I just got my computer back after a VERY LONG repair trip.
I grew up on a beef ranch, Dad and I hunted purt near every animal on this continent. But I've been a veggie for about 16 years now. Funny thing is, I stopped eating store bought meat about a year before I stopped hunting for it. I never could understand those people who would talk about the cruelty of hunting while happily scarfing down their McDonald's.

Too bad I don't hunt anymore, I have much nicer guns now.
 
Shoot a lot - for work and fun

But I've never been hunting (unless you count 'Qaeda and Fedayeen) and probably will never hunt. I really (no disrespect for those who do) don't see the skill or challenge in hunting an animal that had no interest or intention in attacking me... I'll raise 'em for grub, but I'm not going looking for 'em outside my grocery store. Cheers!
 
Nightspell,

You wrote
I have no delusions that I can change anyone's opinion of it. That's like standing at a podeum explaining to a mormon church why people should carry a gun. It's a lost cause and nobody wants to hear it.

What are you talking about?
 
I am building an AR this summer, obviously not for hunting purposes. I suppose it would be fun, I just don't have the interest to pursue it to any degree. Oh well, .223 is a bit anemic for deer anyway.
 
I own guns and have never hunted. I would like to learn how. I see it as a good way to be effecient. Make one kill, get enough meat to last a month or so. Yeah it won't last til next hunting season, but that one month that I eat for the price of one bullet. I like that idea.

I have a few friends who have offered to take me this year. And I will definitely take them up on the offer. LIke some many others said, even it's not something that I will do regularly, it's a good skill to have 'in the tool box' (as someone put it), and I'm sure I'll have some great memories.

Nightspell, I will try to word this professionally. You're arrogance has no ground to stand on. And your ignorance (based off the mormon comment) is sad. I am not mormon, never have been, but the majority of the gun nuts I meet, since I live in Salt Lake City, Ut, are Mormon. So, you're telling Mormons that they should carry/own guns would be a lost couse, because most of them already do.
 
I've hunted a couple of times,didn't get anything.
Used to fish all the time,not so much anymore.
Its funny,as I get older,killing anything gets harder.
I don't know why but I try real hard not to purposely
kill anything(except mosquitoes!).I love to shoot though! :D

QuickDraw
 
Yes, I own guns. I haven't hunted since I was in high school. I used to go hunting with my best friend and his Dad. They were the ones who got me started shooting. My Mom has never liked guns, so I couldn't have any (except BB guns) when I was growing up. I wouldn't mind going hunting again sometime, I just don't have the time!
 
Wonderful discussion

I hunt, but not as often or as well as I'd like to. When you stop and think about it, it takes a pretty rare (these days) combination of desire, temperment, opportunity, and culture to produce a hunter. I consider myself fortunate, but I can understand why many folks prefer not to hunt or are no longer active hunters. I'm a firearms safety instructor, and I see the number of young hunters steadily decreasing, even in the hunting--friendly setting of the upper midwest.

There are many reasons that hunting numbers are down. Urbanization, single parent families, increasing costs and decreasing opportunity are all factors. Thoughtless hunters are part of the problem. If they're bragging about blowing big holes in woodland creatures in a mixed social setting, shooting traffic signs, road hunting with a beer in one hand, or running down antelope with a 4x4, their brand of hunting will give the sport a stigma that may not be survivable. I won't hunt with such characters, and I try to teach my students that ethics aren't optional in our sport.

There is much more to hunting than we commonly see or hear about. I hope that any of you that would like to hunt will have the opportunity to share the occasional outing with a good dog and a good friend or two that, like you, realize that it's not about killing but spending pleasurable time in the great outdoors. About waiting, watching and learning. About appreciating what we have, respecting God's creatures, and connecting with past generations. I love to shoot, but hunting involves many more disciplines and skills than triggernometry. Good thing, too, as I've returned from many an expedition without firing a shot.
 
When I was 10 my uncle, a retired Navy Seal, took me out for 10 days in Sierra County "up north". We each had a compass, Scoped German k98 w/200 rounds of ammo, Ka-Bar, Pack with blankets and extra socks, extra set of boots (mil surp of course) canteen, collapsable shovel and a first aid kit. We ate a big meal that sunday morning knowing that we needed to kill something by tomorrow morning or hump out very hungry.

Basicly in 10 days he taught me the basic skills of survival. Tracking, finding food, "long distance tactical engagement" (he's a Seal), prepping food, making yourself invisible etc. Lost 15 pounds that week but had the experiance of a lifetime. As we couldn't haul a deer carcass around we went after small birds.

We did this a couple more times till I turned 18 and went to college. Haven't hunted since and probably won't anytime soon. (too much trouble) But the lessons and skills I learned from him may someday keep my alive.

Man he is hard core. :cool:
 
Hunting and Guns

We own guns, but don't hunt. My DH used to hunt when he was a child, but here in Florida the deer are so small it would feel like killing Bambi. I personally can't see myself killing a defensless animal though.
 
Got into guns purely for home defense, and branched out from there. I've been deer hunting with my grandpappy, but I always found it crushingly boring. Same with bird hunting. And fishing.

I kill lots and lots of animals, but because some of them are pests. A good dozen grey squirrels right from this chair out the window because they started chewing into the roof, and 44 pidgeons at my folks house before and after I moved out, because their droppings dont mix well with horses.

Prolly a dozen english starlings because they roost in the eves and make big shat waterfalls down the walls from their nests.

Its just easier to get food downtown :p
 
I've been hunting. Hunting is fine until you actually shoot something, then it turns into work. First you need to find whatever you shot, then you need to clean it and dress it out, either in the field or later. When I go shooting at the range, all I need to clean is a few guns.
 
I've been hunting. Hunting is fine until you actually shoot something, then it turns into work. First you need to find whatever you shot, then you need to clean it and dress it out, either in the field or later.

I know a few guys who like to hunt, one of whom bow hunts and is quite a skilled tracker/guide. I've asked them both if I could accompany them just so I could see how its done.. I have no idea how to dress a deer, and I think its a valuable skill to have even if you don't do it regularly.
 
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