Anyone want a Garand (or 600,000 of them)?

[arjay]

Garands

Marstar in Canada had some Italian (Beretta) built Garands for sale for $C200 ($US127+/-). (Who in Canada, with their draconian GC laws, can own one of these?). They explained that these could not be imported to the US due to an EO by Clinton that Firearms manufactured in foreign countries using US designs and licenses could not be imported. What a bunch of crap. Imagine a Garand made by Beretta, and only $127.

Looks like these ("600'000 GARAND rifles and M1 Carbines, in both the WINCHESTER American-made versions and BERETTA P31 and P30-M781 Italian-made versions") are doomed for the scrap heap. What a sacrilege!

 

[SteelyDan]

Trying to look at this logically. Let's say there are 500,000 of the Italians left. Let's also assume that US buyers would pay $400 apiece for them (and this figure is presumably quite low if they're all in the same condition as described). So, conservatively, if my math is correct, this represents a source of at least $200 million for potential sellers and distributors.

I cannot bring myself to believe that these things will be scrapped or melted-down, in light of the dollars involved. Actually, I can, but that's just too pointless and painful to consider.

 

[EvilOmega]

You say you can buy a garand in Canada for 150 or so dollars American. Would they sell to an American? And how much trouble would it be to bring back into us?

 

[PJR]

Meanwhile, north of the border Canadian guns owners are chuckling at the misinformation being tossed around about our gun laws.

Thanks to the changes in Canadian law during the past five years, most Canadians cannot own them

Who in Canada, with their draconian GC laws, can own one of these?

Anyone of the hundreds of thousands of us with a Possession and Acquisition Licence can. It is similar to the FOID in Illinois and similar cards in other U.S. states including New Jersey and Massachusets.

There is even a special Garand exemption on the books. Under Canadian law, semi-auto centerfires are limited to five round magazines except the Garand. They are quite popular.

Here are some interesting tidbits you might like to know about Canadian gun laws.

It is easier in Canada's capital city for a private citizen to legally own a handgun than it is in the capital city of the USA.

It is easier for a private citizen to legally own a handgun in Toronto than it is Chicago.

It is easier for an American to legally bring a rifle or shotgun into Canada than the other way round.

Given the population disparities, there are probably MORE Americans living under gun laws as "draconian" if not worse than those in Canada.

In the meantime, we'll continue shooting and owning a piece of your history at very reasonable prices.

 

[LynnKCircle]

Would ten years in the Federal pokey be "too much trouble"?

 

[stavman]

Does anyone that has been to the CMP North store know if you can just walk in and by gun or do you have to bring all your paper work with you? That you would have to supply if bought one through the mail.

 

[LAR-15]

So what does a Canadian have to do to bring a gun into the USA?

 

[4v50 Gary]

We must do something to bring our "Veterans" home. I'm even willing to spring for a new safe to house them in. Viva Italia!

 

[PJR]

So what does a Canadian have to do to bring a gun into the USA?

1) Have a hunting licence or an invitation to a shooting match.
2) An ATF Form 6 -- about a 6 to 8 week wait according to last reports. I know guys who have waited several months

Find all the details here

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/022002form6updates.htm

The laws also specify control on ammunition. In theory I could be in deep kimchi for a forgotten shotgun round in my trunk on a trip to have wings at the Anchor Bar in Buffalo.

There are also laws prohibiting me from exporting ammunition. A spare round in a shooting vest could be a very expensive oversight.

Meanwhile an American with a shotgun or rifle can drive up to the Canadian border, fill out the requisite paperwork and be on his way in about 30 minutes. A handgun would be possible but more problematic because you'd need a transfer permit.

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/en/visitors/default.asp

The real pain in the posterior is that the US laws apply to someone in transit. If I show up at the Customs and Immigration with a shotgun and am making a airline connection to Africa or South America I have to jump through all of the same hoops even though my bags and guns are being checked through to the final destination. A friend of mine didn't realize this and was faced with the choice of losing his hunting trip or not going with his guns.

Paul

 

[LAR-15]

Sorry to reply so late.

It looks like BATFE (the alphabet guys) are screwing over everybody and his brother/sister since 9/11/01.

At least you can run into a store and buy some ammo.