AR Prices after ban sunset

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I am curious to what you think will happen to the prices of AR type rifles if in fact the ban sunsets. Will pre-ban rifles go down? Will post-ban rifles rise to the prices of pre-ban? Everything drop significantly? It seems within the last few years AR prices have risen significantly, could this be the end of the rise? My guess is that the rifles will stay right where they are at in the pricerange and the sunset will not really affect their price being that they are still in demand.....and probably even moreso after the ban is over. What are your thoughts.

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I doubt it will make much of a difference. I suspect that when/if it sunsets there will be an upsurge in AR modifications. Mainly people having real flash suppressors added and replacing the front sight block on post-ban AR's with ones that mount a bayonet lug.

Hmm. I may have to look in to what that will cost. Maybe go ahead and order the requisite parts ahead of time if they don't cost much.
 
I imagine that preban AR's will we worth dirt afterward, considering how old they are now.

Would you pay full price for an AR you know is at least 9 years old?
 
I dont think prices will go down on new ars, but I do think many preban features will become available. I also think many people will be ordering parts for the guns they already own.
 
less manufacturing work with "pre ban" parts

no silver soldering muzzle brakes
no bayonet lug grinding
no BATF certification of muzzle devices

USGI 30s standard issue instead of an expensive run of unreliable 10 rounders

i'm hoping taht with greater sales volume, the Mag pull adjustable stock gets cheaper
 
well already...

prices on AR's & SKS's are dropping like a rock. I assume you'll be able to import from most any country that builds AR's
 
We are having a collapsable stock installation party here (on the high road) at midnight this september arn't we?

I only know of 2 states that have their own ban (this is not to say that there are not more, if you know any more please list them). NY and cali

Preban rifles atleast in NY will probally drop to around 1000 bucks a slight premium over newly available rifles in pre ban configeration (manufactured after 9/2004) I don't think they will keep their current prices becuase a whole bunch of people from other states who do not have their own state law can sell theirs on the net to people from ny. also you can buy a long gun out of state (if not prevented by state law) so NY's could go to other states and buy prebans at more reasonable prices thereby reducing the high price. I don't know if this applies to CA as they have their own crazy stuff going on and I am not sure you can bring a Preban into the state.

AR's in general will remain the same price only also available in preban configeration. Who knows though if people like bushmaster will continue to make postbans as there are probally only a few states to sell them to.

People ask this question about mags to and I often here the responce that why would glock not charge $40 bucks or so for a mag as they know people will buy it. I don't think this will happen as the new guns are sure to ship with full capacity mags and I think that in itself will help keep the prices down. The aren't going to up the price of the pistols 50 bucks to make up for the full caps.
 
We have our own AW ban in Massachusetts. So if I want a preban, I will have to get what is "just some old rifle" to everyone in a free state. At least it won't cost that much.
 
Yes, the bill will sunset, but I don't think it will mean much to us.

I believe that there will be new legislation enacted that will either keep things the same or put more restrictions on semi auto rifles. My biggest hope is that any new legislation passed will only cover weapons made after the AWB expired. That would put several thousand new "Pre Bans" on the market. It would drop the cost of pre bans slightly, but not by much.

If we can ever have pre ban parts on a current post ban gun I believe the #1 seller will be a collapsible stock.

Good Shooting
Red
 
I assume you'll be able to import from most any country that builds AR's
Not without the requisite US parts count like in imported AK knockoffs.
 
You know all the AR manufacturers still make preban configured AR's for LE and for people with preban lowers. The prices dont seem to be any different. Heck you could buy a preban upper right now if you really wanted to and put it on when (if) the ban sunsets.
 
stupid question BUT......

Heck you could buy a preban upper right now if you really wanted to and put it on when (if) the ban sunsets.

since i am unsure of the actual way the law reads, what IS the legality of doing just that? IS it considered a no-no to own a pre-ban UPPER if there is no Pre-ban LOWER and there for "pre-ban firearm" to mate said upper to? or do legal gremlins only come after you if they find out you took the pre-ban config upper adn stuck it on your Post lower??

curious is all
 
I am wondering if there has been a "assault weapon" prosecution in and of itself, as opposed to adding the charge to whatever else the goblin did....

Based on conversations I have had with LE up here in Alaska, there hasnt been an assault gun pros in and of itself.

WildwillhaveathreadbarrelspecialcomejulyAlaska
 
"Colt AR-15"s so marked will hold their value & possibly rise in price as there will NEVER be another "Colt AR-15" made for civilian use.....

as for the "AR-15" clones, look-a-likes & copys, yes..!! the prices will fall to about half of what they are now.........
 
How many companies won't make the evil features available again? Maybe some companies will decide, for the good of the community and the safety of our children, that things like bayonet lugs and 10+ round magazines just aren't for civilians so they'll refuse to sale them with their guns.
 
I think the ones marked "Colt AR15" with the horse dancing on top of the world will continue to go up, as AR15Nutt said. The rest??
 
The prices will be around $780 for a new "pre-ban" configured AR with collapsable stock. At least, that's how much I just paid for my LE Bushmaster with all the "evil" features. If that's what they charge for the new rifle with all the goodies, why would that change in Sept? Of course, how much your gunshop will charge at first (when supply hasn't met demand yet) will be another story.

BTW- I wouldn't go out and buy the evil features before you have the legal lower to mate with it. In terms of an AR, an upper and lower need NOT be attached to be considered ONE firearm. This is what I've heard from opinions from the ATF. Well, I guess you could go out and buy the front sight tower w/ bayo lug, but not the complete upper.

Speaking of front sight towers, I've got two for sale with bayo lugs. Make me an offer.
 
How many companies won't make the evil features available again? Maybe some companies will decide, for the good of the community and the safety of our children, that things like bayonet lugs and 10+ round magazines just aren't for civilians so they'll refuse to sale them with their guns.

Considering that the companies who make their living off selling ar-15 are already "un-pc" i think they will do whatever ends up making them money. (i will say that COLT has something of an odd track record in this regard). The fact remains that the antis want to put these companies out of buisiness, period. I dont see them bending to please them anytime soon.
 
Not without the requisite US parts count like in imported AK knockoffs.

Ooh. I hadn't thought about AK's. Does that mean if the ban sunsets I'll be able to put a folding stock on my AK?
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Ooh. I hadn't thought about AK's. Does that mean if the ban sunsets I'll be able to put a folding stock on my AK?
of course!! AK owners must be invited to the collpasable stock install correct?
 
Y'all keep in mind that the AWB sunsetting is a big IF. A very big IF. From what I can estimate there's enough support in the House & Senate to pass an extension or an expansion. Bush said he'd sign it & hastert said it's not off the table. Meanwhile there's a House passed appropriations bill headed to the Senate & they could easily tack on an extension or expansion of the AWB.

So don't let up on your congres critter or Bush. Keep writing, calling, attending their meetings, etc... & don't believe them if they say it won't be voted on , it's a non-issue, they're NRA members or they support the rights of gun owners. We have to keep reminding them that they'll lose our vote if they betray us again.

As to the original question, I think this distortion in the semi-free market created by the AWB will have lasting effects. I'm thinking 10% to 25% cheaper is all we can expect or hope for, if we get that. Naturally "post-ban" rifles will be cheaper than that, but no more than a quarter below what we would be paying for them now if they were legal.

Odds are though that the prices will remain the same as most "post-ban" rifles are now, but with the added evil features. In some cases we might be paying a little more.

But don't look to a bargain of rifles with those "evil features". Instead just look forward to being able to get after market accesories (stocks, flash hiders, etc..) at maybe 10% less.

Mag prices though should drop down - at least for certain "high capacity" mags that can't be made currently. I don't know if this will affect the AR's as there are a ton of mags already out there, but for pistols & other firearms that only hit the stores in the early 90's then it should come down to $25 to $45 for a "high capacity" mag instead of paying that for a ten rounder or twice to three times that for a "pre-ban".

As I said though, this is all dependent on the AWB sunsetting & it really doesn't look as good as you'd think.
 
Yep, have at it with your collaspable stock, flash hider and bayonet lug party. In Calif., we couldn't convert one if we wanted to.
 
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