Got a Glock 22 with over 100,000 round's now and i have never had one problem with it. My Glock 19 is soon approaching that amount as well. My hk uspc has close to 20,000 round's and only one stove pipe. All my sig's just under 10,000 and not a problem. The only gun i ever had a problem with was my xd first 200 round's in it had a few failure's to feed and a few stove pipe's that is why it no longer remain's in my collection.
Are All Your Weapons 100% Reliable?
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No... I have guns that I trust, and 'range toys'.
My Colt .25 has never jammed on me, but I doubt I'd ever carry it 'seriously.'
My PA-63 has never jammed, but I really don't think I shoot it that much. I also don't look highly on the .380 as cartridge I'd totally trust my life to.
I've got a Luger that is finicky, a custom DA 1911 that really has no business in IDPA (but still neat).
And some uber reliable revolvers (though I bound up a Colt 1917 with poorly re-sized brass) and some autos that I shoot a lot.
Bottom line, you use them for any length of time they will jam/fail, even your favorites. Train for it. Keep your weapons in good working order.
My Colt .25 has never jammed on me, but I doubt I'd ever carry it 'seriously.'
My PA-63 has never jammed, but I really don't think I shoot it that much. I also don't look highly on the .380 as cartridge I'd totally trust my life to.
I've got a Luger that is finicky, a custom DA 1911 that really has no business in IDPA (but still neat).
And some uber reliable revolvers (though I bound up a Colt 1917 with poorly re-sized brass) and some autos that I shoot a lot.
Bottom line, you use them for any length of time they will jam/fail, even your favorites. Train for it. Keep your weapons in good working order.
TripleL
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The firearm is just a club without the ammo. Is your ammo equally as reliable? Can you trust your CCW load if you use a different ammo at the range? :banghead:
10-Ring
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100% I would say more like 98.9999999999% reliable. I have had most of my reliability issues w/ my 22lr semi autos and my semi custom 1911...but even those are few & far between over 1000's & 1000's of rounds 
Between my HK's, Glocks, Berettas, Brownings, S&W & Colt wheelguns, I'm more like 99.99999999998999% reliable - enough to trust my life & the lives of my family w/ them
Between my HK's, Glocks, Berettas, Brownings, S&W & Colt wheelguns, I'm more like 99.99999999998999% reliable - enough to trust my life & the lives of my family w/ them
gandog56
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Now that I got rid of my POS Jam-o-matic Hi-Point .45, yes, I trust all my guns.
the pistolero
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So far, the only guns in my collection I've had problems with were the Springfield GI 1911 and the Kimber Tactical Ultra II; bad extractor on the first, weak mag spring on the second, I took care of those and it's been happy shootin' with both ever since. All my others have been 100% from the time I took 'em out of the box. I've never shot without cleaning afterwards; no doubt at least the Rugers would keep chugging along for hundreds of rounds, but I think it was right here on this forum that I heard the saying "never let the sun set on a dirty gun," and I've adhered to that from the start...
wally
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Nothing is 100% reliable. If you've never broken a gun, you just aren't shooting enough!
--wally.
--wally.
Cowboybootnut
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Wally took the words out of my mouth. Only birth and death is 100% reliable, except you don't know when.
Lancel
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Note that the OP clarified in post #4 what he meant by 100% reliability:"...given reasonable maintenance and care, proper ammunition, and use by an intelligent person..."
But for those looking for perfection, my Kahr PM9 has been an absolutely flawless, 100% perfect, self-defense weapon - because whenever I have carried it, I have not been attacked.
But for those looking for perfection, my Kahr PM9 has been an absolutely flawless, 100% perfect, self-defense weapon - because whenever I have carried it, I have not been attacked.
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I can live with a very occasional malfunction, even in a carry gun.
There are alot of variables when firing a gun. I find it odd that one failure causes people to sell guns. It could be as simple as an underpowered round causing a failure to eject or a slightly out of spec round failing to feed.
For instance I have a KelTec P3AT that fails to extract about 1 ever 100 to 150 rounds. Not a problem....
I also had 1 failure in about 700 rounds out of my Kimber Pro Carry. It was about the third magazine full when I was trying out some McCormick 8 round shooting stars.....went back to my Wilson 7 rounders and no failures since.
Could have been the gun, could have been the magazine, could have been the shooter, could have been the ammunition.....but its mechanical, it happens.
I had a Walther PP that would have atleast 5 to 7 failures per 50 rounds.....that I wont tolerate......gun is gone.
There are alot of variables when firing a gun. I find it odd that one failure causes people to sell guns. It could be as simple as an underpowered round causing a failure to eject or a slightly out of spec round failing to feed.
For instance I have a KelTec P3AT that fails to extract about 1 ever 100 to 150 rounds. Not a problem....
I also had 1 failure in about 700 rounds out of my Kimber Pro Carry. It was about the third magazine full when I was trying out some McCormick 8 round shooting stars.....went back to my Wilson 7 rounders and no failures since.
Could have been the gun, could have been the magazine, could have been the shooter, could have been the ammunition.....but its mechanical, it happens.
I had a Walther PP that would have atleast 5 to 7 failures per 50 rounds.....that I wont tolerate......gun is gone.
I aggree, it's all relative. For a .380 pocket gun, I would feel just fine with that performance as well. For a mid-full size primary carry or duty gun I'd want 4-500 rds before any failure.
I disaggree that a well maintained gun with good ammo should be 100%. Shoot it enough and some spring will go "sproinnnng" eventually even if you change the main ones out on a schedule. Also, shooter induced or struggle (Murphy) induced malfunctions can happen in a fight that have nothing to do with the mechanical reliability of the gun.
Mad Magyar
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Until last week, I even thought my Daewoo's would last forever...Didn't notice the hammer pin was coming out while shooting, couldn't find it in the dirt leaving me cursing in the wind....
Part on order from Numrich.....
Part on order from Numrich.....
~2 Different HK USP9F's - Both 100% through several thousand rounds - SOLD because I couldn't get comfortable with the grip.
~2 Different CZ SP-01's - Both 100% through several thousand rounds - SOLD because the SW1911 was more fun and they weren't getting shot much.
~HK P7M8 - 100% through about a thousand rounds - SOLD don't remember why.
~Wilson KZ-45 - FTRTB often with 230gr WWB - SOLD
~Bushmaster Bullpup - FTRTB often with XM193 - SOLD
~Steyr M9 - FTE a few times with 115gr WWB - SOLD
~Para Ordnance PX18-9 - FTE often with 115gr WWB - Returned to ParaOrd
~SW1911 - 100% through several thousand rounds - Keeping My all time favorite.
~Ruger MKIII Hunter - 100% through several thousand rounds - Keeping My son's range gun.
~Kel-Tec PLR-16 - 100% through several hundred rounds - Keeping Just a hoot to shoot.
~Kel-Tec P-3AT - 100% through a couple hundred rounds - Keeping Sweet pocket piece.
So my current guns are 100%
~2 Different CZ SP-01's - Both 100% through several thousand rounds - SOLD because the SW1911 was more fun and they weren't getting shot much.
~HK P7M8 - 100% through about a thousand rounds - SOLD don't remember why.
~Wilson KZ-45 - FTRTB often with 230gr WWB - SOLD
~Bushmaster Bullpup - FTRTB often with XM193 - SOLD
~Steyr M9 - FTE a few times with 115gr WWB - SOLD
~Para Ordnance PX18-9 - FTE often with 115gr WWB - Returned to ParaOrd
~SW1911 - 100% through several thousand rounds - Keeping My all time favorite.
~Ruger MKIII Hunter - 100% through several thousand rounds - Keeping My son's range gun.
~Kel-Tec PLR-16 - 100% through several hundred rounds - Keeping Just a hoot to shoot.
~Kel-Tec P-3AT - 100% through a couple hundred rounds - Keeping Sweet pocket piece.
So my current guns are 100%
ID_shooting
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Reliabilty is a subjective term to me. All the guns I have work to expected levels. By this I mean differnt guns have different expectations. The AK I expect to go for thousands of rounds before stoppage, the P3AT is a whole other story. If it shoots 100 rounds with out needing to be cleaned I am happy and feel the gun performs with 100% reliability.
Northslope Nimrod
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NO.
My BHP is the only handgun I have that has been 100% reliable. The others are more like 99.999997% reliable. They have all had atleast one failure...perhaps due to limp wristing but still a failure. MY BHP has had none, zip, zero. Although I have hit the slide stop on accident when I was experimenting with different grip styles.
My BHP is the only handgun I have that has been 100% reliable. The others are more like 99.999997% reliable. They have all had atleast one failure...perhaps due to limp wristing but still a failure. MY BHP has had none, zip, zero. Although I have hit the slide stop on accident when I was experimenting with different grip styles.
I collect "firearms" not "weapons", but this doens't mean that they cannot all be used in self-defense situations. I do have "go-to" guns that are more preferable, but even these will never be 100% reliable. Others have already pointed out ammo as a factor, but I also think that the firearm Operator will never be 100% reliable either.
I don't have too many firearms; I've only got one which is unreliable (USP .40S7W - weird ordeal where magazines will drop out on the last couple rounds on recoil - with mutliple shooters; it's not the shooter's fault), and I'm looking to sell it as a result.
My RRA AR15, Taurus PT111 Pro, Tikka T3 .270, and Yugo SKS have all been 100% reliable (the AR and Taurus I bought new) since I purchased them, and I've put 2500, 500, 150, and 1000 rounds through them, respectively.
The way I figure it, for the price of a firearm - even a relatively inexpensive one ($400 or so) - it should work 99.9% reliably, with concensus for breaking-in woes at the beginning and maybe an early part replacement, for at least 5,000 rounds (with concensus for the magazines failing of malfunctioning, provided it isn't a design problem).
My RRA AR15, Taurus PT111 Pro, Tikka T3 .270, and Yugo SKS have all been 100% reliable (the AR and Taurus I bought new) since I purchased them, and I've put 2500, 500, 150, and 1000 rounds through them, respectively.
The way I figure it, for the price of a firearm - even a relatively inexpensive one ($400 or so) - it should work 99.9% reliably, with concensus for breaking-in woes at the beginning and maybe an early part replacement, for at least 5,000 rounds (with concensus for the magazines failing of malfunctioning, provided it isn't a design problem).
Speaking as someone who has managed to JAM a bolt-action rifle... anything can fail.
Even revolvers. Never had a single action Ruger wheel gun fail for any reason though.
Even revolvers. Never had a single action Ruger wheel gun fail for any reason though.
The only piece I had in my collection that was a constant jam-boree was a Cobray M-11 9mm. No matter how much I lubed, smoothed, and used different mags, it just kept jamming. I ended up selling it at a pawn shop for $200. I now currently own all the following with a combined 7 jams in all since in my possesion
Magnum Research Baby Eagle Polymer 9mm- 0 malfunctions
Bersa .380 Thunder- 0 malfunctions
S & W M&P .40- O malfunctions
Springfield Armory XD Duty .45 ACP- 2 jams (used reloads, possible reason)
S & W 1911- 0 malfunctions
Glock 29- 0 malfunctions
DPMS AR15 - 3 jams (Ammo Maybe? Mags Maybe?)
Arsensal Arms AK-47 - 2 jams (Ammo Maybe? Mags Maybe?)
Winchester 1300 Defender - 0 mafunctions
Magnum Research Baby Eagle Polymer 9mm- 0 malfunctions
Bersa .380 Thunder- 0 malfunctions
S & W M&P .40- O malfunctions
Springfield Armory XD Duty .45 ACP- 2 jams (used reloads, possible reason)
S & W 1911- 0 malfunctions
Glock 29- 0 malfunctions
DPMS AR15 - 3 jams (Ammo Maybe? Mags Maybe?)
Arsensal Arms AK-47 - 2 jams (Ammo Maybe? Mags Maybe?)
Winchester 1300 Defender - 0 mafunctions
johnsonrlp
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I think I cleaned my 870 once, 20K+ and it's never had a problem I didn't directly induce. Everything else is about normal.
Nothing man-made is 100 percent reliable.
Having said this, my duty pistols have not failed yet (Sigs, Berettas, XD). My range guns (Glocks, Rugers) have a low failure rate, about 1 round every 500 shots.
I expect that as I get into the 10's of thousands of rounds, every single pistol will eventually fail. However, so far, the Sigs, Berettas and XD run the best in my collection.
Having said this, my duty pistols have not failed yet (Sigs, Berettas, XD). My range guns (Glocks, Rugers) have a low failure rate, about 1 round every 500 shots.
I expect that as I get into the 10's of thousands of rounds, every single pistol will eventually fail. However, so far, the Sigs, Berettas and XD run the best in my collection.
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