Limeyfellow
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Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons (with the aid of the US) against his subjects and Iran, yes - what you leave out is that it happened 15 years prior to the invasion.
Thats something that bugged me too. Its like condemning Germany and trying them today for the use of mustard gas in WW1 because after all many years ago they had and used those weapons.
As for liberalism and progressiveism people always seem to give the bad example. Plenty of good examples too.
How about the end of slavery, the right of women and non white people to vote. helping the whole of society to survive by giving them access to healthcare and retirement. The protection of the environment for all people by stopping them dropping toxic waste and so on in the water and across the land. At one time it was considered progressive to do away with serfdom and get away from strip farming where the majority lived a meager live before dying at a young age when their crops failed. Its also introduced more oversight over the ruler class.
Sure its done bad things too but its also done good things in society and there wouldn't even be a USA without it.
Thats something that bugged me too. Its like condemning Germany and trying them today for the use of mustard gas in WW1 because after all many years ago they had and used those weapons.
As for liberalism and progressiveism people always seem to give the bad example. Plenty of good examples too.
How about the end of slavery, the right of women and non white people to vote. helping the whole of society to survive by giving them access to healthcare and retirement. The protection of the environment for all people by stopping them dropping toxic waste and so on in the water and across the land. At one time it was considered progressive to do away with serfdom and get away from strip farming where the majority lived a meager live before dying at a young age when their crops failed. Its also introduced more oversight over the ruler class.
Sure its done bad things too but its also done good things in society and there wouldn't even be a USA without it.