Armed away from home territory

[huntsman]

Two pistols

 

[Ignition Override]

The danger inside hotels is mostly for lone women, when they turn their backs on the hallway and are distracted by using high-tech 'keys' (plastic cards), then go into the room.

Lone women in my business have had attackers quickly/quietly force them into their rooms with a weapon and/or a hand over their mouths, and the women are Not looking down the hallway as they enter the room.
The worst rooms are near hallway corners, emergency exits, vending machines, maybe a nearby hotel door (?) which is left propped against its own security bar. It makes no sound when pulling this nearby door open.

I've not yet taken a handgun on road trips with my wife but will begin to do so very soon.
There's usually not any reason to take a rifle unless there will be both time and a place to practice with it, i.e. when visiting my brother.

 

[Old Dog]

I do not go unarmed anywhere. Anywhere. Ever.

I have family in several different states, from California to New York to Arizona to Illinois to Michigan. If flying to a destination, at least one handgun (and if not to a commie state, it's gonna have at least a 15 - 18 round magazine capacity). If driving -- you better believe an M-4 is along for the ride. Who's to say the apocalypse won't happen just 'cause you're on vacation visiting your relatives?

 

[jamesjames]

I should have elaborated more fully, as this is one of my favorite topics. I have thought about and rotated many longs and shorts into this situation. I am running a pawn shop winnie 94 in 30-30 as the long, with Smith model 29 or 629 for wilderness travel and Beretta 96 or PX4 sub compact in 40 SW for self defense in more urban areas. I like a lever gun for a long as it is PC and still effective for all but really long distance work. If I could start over again, I would get a stainless Rossi 92 in 44mag for the long and use my Smith 69 or 629 for the shorts. .44 specials for self defense and .44 magnum to put down injured animals along the highway. I've always liked the cowboy approach: one caliber for both long and short. With a modern update for different situations.

 

[tarosean]

Traveling for me general means leaving the country.. So its a whole lot of nothing that I am able to take.

 

[Elkins45]

I have carried a 44 magnum lever gun in the trunk of my car since reading about the post-Katrina craziness in NOLA. But other than the occasional trip to the range I have thankfully never removed it. I take my handgun into hotel rooms with me "just in case" but if I'm going somewhere I think I might need a long gun, then I'm just staying home.

 

[herrwalther]

When the BLM riots were happening, shutting down highways to make headlines I considered traveling a bit more armed. Namely an AR in the truck with a couple of magazines. Currently I only travel with my regular carry firearm is with a couple spare magazines.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

By myself day-to-day I carry a DAO S&W 64 4"HB (bulky) or a Ruger LC-9s (super tiny for a 9mm). Lately I've taken to carrying the little Ruger on longer trips by myself, too.

On longer family trips I pack both so the revolver can stay with my family as my wife is most comfortable with a wheel gun and so I can
pocket carry the little Ruger if we are out and about in hot weather.

I have (at least once) thrown one of my AKs in a large gym bag in the trunk w/ 300rds of Wolf hollow points. Cheap, reliable insurance but that was on a longer vacation through less populated areas.

 

[Elkins45]

Part of the post-Katrina craziness in NOLA was local LE deciding it was an opportunity to usurp the Second Amendment.
This sort of thing is also a wildcard in just knowing the letter of the law without knowing the local "interpretations" thereof, Denver being just one example.
The late Louis Awerbuck determined that a break open shotgun (unloaded, but with ammo at hand) make him the most legal in the most locals. That and a Florida permit, which had some of the best reciprocity back in the day.

That's the reason for a lever gun rather than an AR--it says "hunting rifle" instead of "roving rape and looting gang" and thus just might avoid drawing the attention of the LE. At least that was the theory when I bought it. A casual observer might conclude this was just an excuse to buy another gun. I don't know that a break open shotgun is any more legal than a lever gun. If I were ever passing through New Jersey I would need to swap out my JHP ammo for lead SWC, but other than that it should be legal anywhere any long gun would be unless there are tube magazine restrictions for non-autos I'm unaware of.

 

[Browning]

That's the reason for a lever gun rather than an AR--it says "hunting rifle" instead of "roving rape and looting gang" and thus just might avoid drawing the attention of the LE. At least that was the theory when I bought it. A casual observer might conclude this was just an excuse to buy another gun. I don't know that a break open shotgun is any more legal than a lever gun. If I were ever passing through New Jersey I would need to swap out my JHP ammo for lead SWC, but other than that it should be legal anywhere any long gun would be unless there are tube magazine restrictions for non-autos I'm unaware of.

I've never really understood this theory.

If LE are in Hurricane Katrina-like confiscate it mode your lever action rifle will get tossed in the truck with the rest after they disarm you (probably at gun point).

If you even verbally resist you'll get arrested on some contempt of cop charge and that'll be that. If you physically resist in the slightest their response will range from pepper spraying you and slamming you against a hard surface all the way to punching holes in you.

You're not going to get cut loose from a contact with the police with your lever action rifle if they're running around 'taking all the guns' from people.

 

[ontarget]

I carry both when out of town for work. CCW, never ever leave home without it. A long gun because if any sort of disaster strikes I will possibly be walking home and it may take a while. Could need the extra protection or may need to eat, depends on how far I'm away from home and what the emergency is.

 

[Dog Soldier]

There is not a Lawman that would remotely consider confiscating guns in Wyoming. And besides that the high mortality rate they would suffer would? Well break most Life Insurance companies.

 

[Ignition Override]

Old Dog:
As for driving through two or three southern states (TN/MS/AL), my words ".not usually..." never excluded having taken an SKS on almost every trip to family since the 'appreciation for guns' blossomed in '07 (then age 52).
Since buying two Saiga all-original rifles (still original), one of them would make an excellent candidate, with factory Izhmash or SGM magazines, possibly the Maadi 'ARM' "AK", the Mak 90.

 

[X-Rap]

That's the reason for a lever gun rather than an AR--it says "hunting rifle" instead of "roving rape and looting gang" and thus just might avoid drawing the attention of the LE.[/QUOTE
I'm sorry but am I the only one pissed off by this asinine statement?

 

[Sarge]

I voted "other" because what I normally carry is a Browning Hi-Power AND either a Thompson SMG or a CAR 15 (SMG version of the M 16). Makes No difference where I am going! Occasionally all 3.
I have had interesting conversation with city, county & state cops on more than one occasion. In Every instance I drove away from the conversation with ALL of my guns still in my car! and NO I am not, nor have I ever been law enforcement.
Sarge

 

[Sav .250]

There is one other factor when carrying in state or out. It`s the responsibility of that person to know the rules/regs concerning
that action. Especially the out of state part.
Saying I didn`t know is really passé .

 

[Spats McGee]

I'm not opposed to the idea of taking a long gun, but I have always just taken my EDC setup. If I traveled more, or were going to an unfamiliar city, I might take a long gun.

Now to put my moderator hat back on: I've cleaned out some off-topic bickering from this thread. I'm going to suggest that those involved drop those arguments.

 

[Elkins45]

I'm sorry but am I the only one pissed off by this asinine statement?

You didn't make the quote work correctly but I fixed it for you.

I'm glad you said you're sorry before you called my statement asinine. That makes it all better.

You can call it "asinine" all you want, but it's the truth as perceived by the people in authority at the time. I didn't say I thought it was a great idea or that I agreed. I would be perfectly happy to walk around with an M2 Browning in the case of civil unrest---but that ain't happening either. I made what I believe to be a true statement: a more innocuous gun is less likely to draw the attention of LEO than an "evil black rifle" that has been so vilified in the popular media. That may be a vain hope as well, but my experience has been there's something about a magazine hanging out of the bottom of a gun that makes people look at a gun differently, and not a good way. You may want to wish away the realities of popular perception, but you know what they say about wishes in one hand...

Here's a quote from someone earlier in the thread:

The late Louis Awerbuck determined that a break open shotgun (unloaded, but with ammo at hand) make him the most legal in the most locals.

Awerbuck was a pretty well-respected guy. Was he "asinine" for recognizing the realities of both legality and perception?

 

[Sistema1927]

If I am heading east I typically carry only my CCW handgun.

If I am traveling in the Southwest, especially near the border, I will also have a long gun. Lately however, that has been an AR pistol in 300 AAC. In times past it has been a variety of guns, including a Jungle Carbine, Marlin 336, Rossi 1892 in .45 Colt, or AR Carbine in 5.56.

 

[22-rimfire]

I'd pack what makes reasonable sense for the trip and what I intend to do during that trip. It's situational. I don't carry a long gun just for the sake of having one with me. If I were out in the middle of Wyoming, I might just pack a 22 rifle and perhaps do some plinking.

 

[Dog Soldier]

My son and I recently made a trip across the Midwest. The only problem was crossing Illinois. I had to lock my 1911 in a safe. My son is a Federal Officer. So we were never unarmed. Illinois has a high homicide rate and strict gun control. Their laws only make citizens victims.

 

[stoky]

There is not a Lawman that would remotely consider confiscating guns in Wyoming. And besides that the high mortality rate they would suffer would? Well break most Life Insurance companies.

 

[bangswitch]

Handgun only when travelling. Long guns by nature are difficult to conceal, and I'd rather not advertise that I'm armed. I prefer that to be a surprise.

 

[Flechette]

I still work part time and likely always will. My work has always had me traveling in farm areas, and as such i have always traveled with long and short guns. Either my colt offercers or my sig 938 and or anything from a 22mag to a 45/70 rifle.....
Yesterday for the first time in likely five years i was out without anything, naked..... no gun, club or knive.... So of course thats when it happens...... Standing knee deep in snow 1:00 PM next to a standing corn crop, out charges a rabid skunk.... and i had to haul tail to the truck..... really hurts to let that vermin live.... it just don't pay to be unarmed....

Sounds like you had to 'high tail it' out of there...

 

[Flechette]

I read an article the other day that said that Wyoming was the state with the highest firearms ownership rate per capita of the entire country...by far.

With less than 600k people in the entire state you are pretty much on your own if you get into trouble.