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Rarely do I carry inside the home after getting in and settled.
My home is typical of a lot of homes in Houston that have burglar bars on every window and door and trying to pry or wedge the burglar bar open would be so noisy you would have plenty of advanced time to react.
And the deadbolt on the regular entrance doors are always kept locked as well.
 
I've heard the remora holster is useless for anything but pocket carry. It doesn't retain the gun very well IWB and it doesn't retain itself in that position. Lots of reviews of people saying it just fell out.
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Remora is a good company with excellent customer service, and a quality product.

Having said that, I purchased one several months ago, installed my PF9, tucked it in my pants, and felt it promptly slide down my leg. I tried tightening my belt, different pants, wider belt, different position, but the outcome was always the same.

Since last fall I have lost 43 pounds and my clothes do not fit as tight as they used to. Realizing that may contribute to the problem, I bought some new jeans in the correct size, but I still had the same issue.

I ran out of options, so I contacted Remora, explained the situation, and the owner said "return it for a full refund". I did that and to my surprise he even refunded the original shipping costs.

The design and materials used in the holster are a good idea, it just didn't work for me. I'm sure others will not experience the issues I had, as I have seen many positive reviews for thier holsters. My advice is to try them, but if it doesn't work for you, their customer service will make it right for you.:)

As a side note, I did find a holster that has worked out great for me. It's a Blackhawk IWB size 8. It has a suede outer covering that is comfortable against my skin, and a sturdy plastic clip to affix it to your pants or belt. I can wear it all day and forget it's on me, and I don't worry about retention. their website is www.blackhawk.com .
 
Remora is a good company with excellent customer service, and a quality product.

Having said that, I purchased one several months ago, installed my PF9, tucked it in my pants, and felt it promptly slide down my leg. I tried tightening my belt, different pants, wider belt, different position, but the outcome was always the same.
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This pretty much says that it is not a quality product for what it is advertised as, and fits with the reviews I've read on it.
 
When I got up this morning, with no intent to leave the house, BG380 in left front pants pocket, M&P 40C in gunpack at 12 o'clock. 2 spare magazines for each. The guns may vary, but the carry is always the same except for shower, or bed, though it's always "right there" in those situations.

You don't get to pick when trouble comes upon you. You can only be as prepared as possible.

I'm retired now, and am often the only resident home during the day in our 5-house cul-de-sac.
 
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I'm not paranoid when I get up of a morning, retired, wife still works, but the SP 101 gets strapped on my Levi's when getting up. If I decide to wear lounging pants, and upstrs at my computer, I have a Beretta .32 auto on the desktop by the computer. We live in a quiet neighborhood, some folks at home, others not, still get folks who have to pander their goods during the day. No soliciting signs mean nothing to them, they ring and bang to their hearts content, religious zealots think this excludes them. However, when answering the door to those ignorant of reading capabilities, when they see I'm carrying, they soon realize they have other things to be done, post haste! There was a time, a couple of months ago, magazine sales were a big hit here in the neighborhood, when they come back the second time, I phone the local LEO's and let them have a go at them!
 
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What do you guys do, or what would you recommend in this situation?
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My home has a similar situation to yours; door in the middle with BRs at one end and living/kitchen area at the other. I keep a 357 revolver hidden in the bedroom and a 38 revolver hidden in the living room. Neither is something that will ever be noticed or found w/o a dedicated search, but I can access either in just a couple of seconds.
 
I wouldn't be opposed to carrying IWB at home, but when I mentioned the idea of it to my wife the other evening, she looked at me like I had lost my marbles.

Oh well. Having come from an incredibly anti-gun background, she's made remarkable progress. I suspect that with time, she won't think much of it anymore.
 
When the day comes that I feel a need to carry a gun while in my home I figure it is time to move because the bad guys have won.

Ron
 
Posted by Reloadron: When the day comes that I feel a need to carry a gun while in my home I figure it is time to move because the bad guys have won.
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There is a very distinct difference between "feeling the need" to do something and making a decision to do it based on a reasoned assessment of risks and how best to mitigate them.

But--assuming that the result is the same, just where would one move? Would one assume that a "better" neighborhood is safer in terms of the likelihood of violent home invasion? On what basis?

Many people feel it prudent to keep a firearm for "home protection". It seems that many of them are under the impression that should the need to pick up the firearm arise, it will likely happen while they are in the bedroom, so they keep it there. Or perhaps they just believe that they would somehow be able to get to the firearm to access it in an emergency. I respectfully suggest that many people have not really thought very much about the problem. At least they haven't done the kind of thinking that led to the OP:

Thus, if I am on the north side, and my long gun/safe room is on the south side, I would need to fight through the BG in order to get to my long guns. Really puts "hand gun is used to fight to your long gun" into perspective. Even from the south side, there really isn't a hallway, and there is clear LOS from the entryway, meaning I'd need to cross into the BG's LOS in order to get to my long guns.
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The "bad guys" haven't done anything, yet. The question is one of what to do before they do.
 
Keanbore (RE: your post #22)

I agree 100% with your statements. I didn't mean to imply that my house isn't vulnerable to break ins. I study home security a good deal, especially on this site. I've done my best to implement every good bit of advice, from dogs, to home security and alarms. I don't advertise what I have in my house, never use service people that I do not know personally. I even have strict rules about who I invite for get-togethers. The very few times that someone has shown up soliciting they have been dealt with firmly and NOT let in the house. I don't live in the hood, don't have reason to think I've made myself the object of someone's interest.

Also, I don't live in an affluent neighborhood. Maybe slightly above middle class.

I was just emphasizing that I believe people should be prepared at any moment for "situations".
 
When the day comes that I feel a need to carry a gun while in my home I figure it is time to move because the bad guys have won
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Right, 'cause criminals stay away from nice neighborhoods, and would neeevvverrrrr break into a middle class (or similar, nicer, whatever) house, right?

:rolleyes:

Bad people do bad stuff at all hours of the day, and all over the world, including your neighborhood. Stop thinking that nothing bad could ever possibly happen to you.

Now, you may choose to believe that carrying in your home is too much of a PITA compared to the risks, and that's fine, but don't pretend the risks aren't there.
 
What do you guys do, or what would you recommend in this situation?

We live on 20 acres in a rural area in what is likely the most violent county in the state. My wife and I both carry at home, and are the only ones who live in the home presently. Our house is laid out with front and rear doors in the center and more or less opposite each other, with bedrooms on the ends of the house. There are long guns (pump shotguns) tucked away in concealed locations at both ends of the house (replaced in the safe when we both leave home at the same time, which is seldom). Our concern was being isolated from a long gun by the sudden appearance of trouble as well, and this is the solution we used.

The house is fenced, and the driveway gate is always locked. There's a perimeter fence around the property as well. There are motion sensors covering the driveway and all the approaches to the house. We also have a couple of very protective dogs (Fila Brasileiros) to help out if necessary.
 
I'm never without my "always" gun (J-frame airweight) at a minimum, unless on the rare occasion that I find myself at a location that is posted (which is rare these days).

As always, YMMV.
 
When I made this statement:

When the day comes that I feel a need to carry a gun while in my home I figure it is time to move because the bad guys have won.
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I was serious. I will not get to the point where I live in fear in my home on my property to where I wear a gun day and night. We have two dogs who trigger on anything outside. There are security lights out there. Sorry but if I need to wear a gun in my own damn home there is a hell of a big problem.

I am not stupid enough to believe crooks only prey in the bad areas. Why would they? There is nothing to steal in the bad areas. However, as I said, I will not live in fear in my house. When it comes top that I am out of there. Right now the neighborhood is fine and I see no reason to arm myself in my house. Should bad guys decide to break in when we are not at home they can deal with the dogs. Should they shoot and kill the dogs they can begin working on removing a 2,000 Lb safe and all its contents out the front of the building. Good luck on that note.

Just my thoughts on things. If many here feel the need to wear a gun in their home then by all means do it.

Ron
 
Posted by Seanpcola: I study home security a good deal, especially on this site. I've done my best to implement every good bit of advice, from dogs, to home security and alarms.
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I am sure that I speak for Fred and the rest of the staff when I say that we are gratified by that sentiment an that we are most happy to have been able to help.

Posted by Fred Fuller: We live on 20 acres in a rural area in what is likely the most violent county in the state. My wife and I both carry at home, and are the only ones who live in the home presently. Our house is laid out with front and rear doors in the center and more or less opposite each other, with bedrooms on the ends of the house. There are long guns (pump shotguns) tucked away in concealed locations at both ends of the house (replaced in the safe when we both leave home at the same time, which is seldom). Our concern was being isolated from a long gun by the sudden appearance of trouble as well, and this is the solution we used.

The house is fenced, and the driveway gate is always locked. There's a perimeter fence around the property as well. There are motion sensors covering the driveway and all the approaches to the house. We also have a couple of very protective dogs (Fila Brasileiros) to help out if necessary.
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All very prudent indeed.

And sad, in a way. When I was a child visiting two different sets of relatives in different rural parts of Mississippi, we were far from the nearest house. There were no gates or fences. There were no motion sensors. The houses were left unlocked, at least during the day time. Firearms were not carried.

What a difference five or six decades make.
 
Well, I've decided to carry my XDm most of the time when I'm at home. If I do decide to take it off, it can go in the gun safe near my bed, or in one of the two holsters placed around my condo, depending on which room I'm in at the time (I already had one on the bottom of my desk, last night I installed one on the side of my DVD rack, so I have both the TV room and computer room covered...where I spend most of my time at home).

As an aside, if you're putting a holster on a verticle surface, make sure you do so ergonomically. It hurt my wrist to grab the gun at the angle I first put it at (too high up, no cant) so I dropped it down a half a foot and angled it a bit, and now I have a smooth draw.
 
Posted by Reloadron: I will not get to the point where I live in fear in my home on my property to where I wear a gun day and night.
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We most certainly do not live in fear.

We had a bit of a scare the other day when some rough looking people banged insistently on the front door when i did not happen to be carrying, but we do not live in fear.

Sorry but if I need to wear a gun in my own damn home there is a hell of a big problem.
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There is a significant difference between a "need" and a prudent risk mitigation strategy. Do you "need" a fire extinguisher?

We have two dogs who trigger on anything outside. There are security lights out there.
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Excellent strategy! Then what do you do?

Sorry but if I need to wear a gun in my own damn home there is a hell of a big problem.... ...I will not live in fear in my house. When it comes top that I am out of there.
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Just where would you go?

If you lived in an area with a high violent crime rate, you would be concerned about auto theft, the loss of moveable property, and most importantly, personal safey when going in and out of your house and neighborhood. Moving might well be advised. But the OP was about safety in the home, and that's a different problem.

Should bad guys decide to break in when we are not at home they can deal with the dogs.
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It is always best if a break-in occurs when no one is home. Property can be replaced. The problem arises when one returns home while burglars are still inside. See this. It happened in a very fine neighborhood indeed.

The ST&T "school solution" is to always be alert for anything that might indicate trouble, and to drive away immediately at the first indication that something might be wrong.

If many here feel the need to wear a gun in their home then by all means do it.
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When I first heard of the idea I thought it was ludicrous.

But then I put a little objective thought into it. A little "what if" analysis. Basic risk management. It changed my mind.
 
When I first heard of the idea I thought it was ludicrous.
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When I first heard of this, I didn't think it was ludicrous, but I did think "I don't wanna have to do that." But, like you, I put some thought into it, and it makes sense. My other plan made sense too (hide guns all around), but that would be more expensive.
 
In my state it is legal to carry a loaded pistol in your car even without a permit. It is therefore legal to take that pistol to and from your car when you leave and return home.
There is no legal reason not to walk to or from the car with a loaded pistol in hand.
 
Kleanbore said:
When I first heard of the idea I thought it was ludicrous.

But then I put a little objective thought into it. A little "what if" analysis. Basic risk management. It changed my mind.
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Same for me. I usually carry at home, though not quite 100%. When not carrying, there has been some consideration given to how quickly I can get to one of the quick access safes or the 1911 holstered somewhere nearby. If I don't like the results of such consideration, the holster goes IWB at 3:30.
 
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When I was single I kept a pistol in a case and moved it about with me. That is no longer an option so I now have several small single firearm type safes in key locations.
 
And it's not like it has to be "carried" in the traditional sense. I was watching TV earlier, and felt like sprawling out on the couch, so I placed the 1911 on the coffee table. It just has to be easily accessible, and quickly. Not in the safe on the other side of the house, and not where you have to dig it out of some drawer.
 
was serious. I will not get to the point where I live in fear in my home on my property to where I wear a gun day and night. We have two dogs who trigger on anything outside. There are security lights out there. Sorry but if I need to wear a gun in my own damn home there is a hell of a big problem.
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And that's fine for you, and I hope it works out. But it's not the best solution for most people here.

Like I said, if it's too much of an inconvenience to YOU to carry a gun around your house, then don't. Your house is not some "sacred place" that is immune from disaster.

The comfort of knowing I have a tool to defend me as close as possible is greater than the "inconvenience" of having to wear it all day.

And it's most definitely not "fear". Like has been said before, risk assessment.
 
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