Beretta 92 Unboxing Reveals the Nanny State

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And here is what you get from Beretta when you buy a model 92 series handgun. The pistol comes covered with oil, which you have to clean off before you shoot it. Do as I say, not as I did. <g>

The interesting thing is the junk they have to put in the box to satisfy the nanny states of the People's Republic of California and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, which insists on..well, just watch

Beretta 92 Unboxing
 
It's to satisfy various state laws without having to package some pistols with the lock, some without.

Yeah, the consumer is responsible for the locks, etc. but if Beretta does it it's CYA and easy for the shooter. (Note the padlock is the cheapest piece of dung they could buy...) So is the case, with no real "hinge".

I'm glad they put the money into the pistol!!! :)
 
cable lock = required by FEDERAL LAW [18 USC 922(z)(1)]

Box says "Contains California Certified Lock", because CA requires gun locks to meet a certain standard in order to qualify as a "gun safety device/lock" and the cable lock supplied by Beretta meets that standard.

In addition, the Beretta Model 92A1 is not on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.
So, a CA FFL dealer can not transfer it to a non-exempt person in CA.
Which means, further proof, that the cable lock is included to satisfy FEDERAL LAWS, not CA laws, which the person in the video is stating it's the reason it's there for.


18 USC 922
(z) Secure Gun Storage or Safety Device.—
(1) In general.— Except as provided under paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to sell, deliver, or transfer any handgun to any person other than any person licensed under this chapter, unless the transferee is provided with a secure gun storage or safety device (as defined in section 921 (a)(34)) for that handgun.
(2) Exceptions.— Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—
(A)
(i) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by, the United States, a department or agency of the United States, a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, of a handgun; or
(ii) the transfer to, or possession by, a law enforcement officer employed by an entity referred to in clause (i) of a handgun for law enforcement purposes (whether on or off duty); or
(B) the transfer to, or possession by, a rail police officer employed by a rail carrier and certified or commissioned as a police officer under the laws of a State of a handgun for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);
(C) the transfer to any person of a handgun listed as a curio or relic by the Secretary pursuant to section 921 (a)(13); or
(D) the transfer to any person of a handgun for which a secure gun storage or safety device is temporarily unavailable for the reasons described in the exceptions stated in section 923 (e), if the licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, or licensed dealer delivers to the transferee within 10 calendar days from the date of the delivery of the handgun to the transferee a secure gun storage or safety device for the handgun.
(3) Liability for use.—
(A) In general.— Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has lawful possession and control of a handgun, and who uses a secure gun storage or safety device with the handgun, shall be entitled to immunity from a qualified civil liability action.
(B) Prospective actions.— A qualified civil liability action may not be brought in any Federal or State court.
(C) Defined term.— As used in this paragraph, the term “qualified civil liability action”—
(i) means a civil action brought by any person against a person described in subparagraph (A) for damages resulting from the criminal or unlawful misuse of the handgun by a third party, if—
(I) the handgun was accessed by another person who did not have the permission or authorization of the person having lawful possession and control of the handgun to have access to it; and
(II) at the time access was gained by the person not so authorized, the handgun had been made inoperable by use of a secure gun storage or safety device; and
(ii) shall not include an action brought against the person having lawful possession and control of the handgun for negligent entrustment or negligence per se.
 
Soooo..... Your upset that your gun, like virtually every single pistol sold in the US today, came with a gun lock?
 
Not "upset" more bemused and disgusted by the nanny state's fingerprints all over the contents of the box.

Nothing more than that. Just found it to be a fascinating glimpse into this aspect of our society.

The MASS slip of paper was particularly intriguing.

Not sure you got where I'm "upset" about it.

Did you watch the video?
 
Now imagine as in say, the automobile world, how much more your pistol cost due to the material and intellectual requirement needed to satisfy those various "nanny" parties. The legal consultancy alone for these manufacturers is brutal to manage but of course, we the consumers pay for it.
 
Did you watch the video?

What does your video have to do with your rather emotionally laden statement of a cheap lock being an indicator of the nanny state? Or were you looking for hits?

On a more related note, I like the locks when they have the manufacturer logo on them. Dig the Beretta locks, especially.
 
I missed the "upset" part too. Seems more bemused by the items than upset. For my part, while I don't often use them, I'm pleased that the locks are provided just in case. I've come to view them as an accessory rather like a cleaning rod or screwdriver and in a couple of cases they have helped me meet transportation requirements without tracking down a "certified" lock.
 
I understand the ops point. Whether he wants or needs the lock, he is stuck paying for it (it does cost the manufacturer money, the cost of which is passed to the consumer ) because congress decided he has to have it.
 
First gun you bought new in 10 years???

They've been coming with locks for at least 10 years or more, well before Cali passed their laws.



Don't want the "nanny state" stuff just throw it in the trash, and be aware that companies like Beretta sell products in states that have different laws.
 
Yeah, this "nanny state" crap gets old. I.e., it has nothing to do with the government or anyone wanting to necessarily protect us. It is all about minimizing risk of folks filing law suits, rather than taking responsibility for their own actions.

But back on topic, I enjoyed the unboxing and look forward to doing it on my very own M9 over the coming weeks/months. Thanks for sharing.
 
I did watch the video, but by upset i was referring more to your post than the video. I can see bemused now that you say it, but before i just kind of got an upset vibe. Chalk it up to miscommunication!

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I get upset when they do not provide free lock with my gun purchase.:mad: San Francisco, OH YEH!:cool: I would not mind living there.
 
If you buy a Commercial M9, Beretta packages an extra blaze orange slip that has the normal 92 frame warning on it.
 
The one I purchased is/was a commercial Beretta, a 92A1, a 92 variant. It did not come with that orange slip. Maybe this is something they put in M9 civilian versions, the 92, here in the USA if this is where they are made?

My 92A1 was made in Italy.
 
I don't mind the locks, even though I know as a result of them having to be included with every gun, it drives up costs in general. I think the stamping "read manual before use" (see other thread in general gun discussion) is more annoying. Although in the grand scheme of things, not a big deal, just like the "caution: hot contents" on a cup of coffee...it's not so much the nanny state as the litigious world we live in.
 
I bought a 92A1 last year... My versions a little different... Open the box, took the gun and magazines out, closed the box, and placed it back in the grey box. Finally placed in garage.

could care less what else was written or contained within!
 
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