Beretta 92FS vs. Taurus PT1911

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Between the 92FS and the PT1911, which is better, regard less of caliber or capacity. The price for either is around $600, so that's not a factor. But I'm just wondering which is of better quality, and which company is better to deal with.

My pros. an cons.:

92FS: pros- 15+1 capacity, all steel, SA/DA, poven company (military contracts), proven platform
: cons- lower power than a .45

PT1911: pros- .45 caliber, all steel, grip saftey, proven design
: cons- 8+1 capacity
 
The Beretta was the first handgun I ever bought and it still has the first spot in my safe. I've never dealt with Beretta's customer service because I never had to: the pistol has never malfunctioned with any type of ammo. The fit and finish exude quality.
A lot of people complain about the slide safety. They say it works in the wrong direction, but there is no right or wrong direction. When I pick up the 1911 I know that down is off-safe. When I pick up the Beretta, I know up is off-safe.

Oh and the Beretta isn't all steel. It has an aluminum frame like the Sig P series and the Colt Lightweight Commander.
 
A more accurate comparison would (obviously) be the Beretta 92 and Taurus PT92.

The 92 FS is a bit large for its caliber, but given that your other choice is a full size 1911, I'm guessing this is not a factor.

Your question is more a question of the two calibers and platforms. Both have their fair share of followers. I recommend you shoot both and then decide.

Also, some more info would help:

-What do you plan on using this gun for? Will you carry it?

-Is ammo cost a factor?

-Have you shot either platform, or either caliber for that matter? Which do you prefer?
 
I plan on using this gun for a recreational/HD pistol, however for HD I'll pick a 590 shotgun. I have never shot either, I won't carry it, because I don't have a CCP. Ammo is not really a factor because 200 rounds can last a LONG time with me (I'm not able to go shoot alot:().

I do want a full size pistol, something with some heft.

Thanks
 
Can you find different grips for the 92FS, because I'd rather not have plastic (besides a Crimson Trace laser grip), and can the PT1911 take aftermarket 1911 grips (just in case I want to change them).

Again thanks:)
 
I ordered some aftermarket wooden grips the same day I got the gun, fit perfectly and greatly improved the look of the gun.
 
The Beretta 92FS is not all steel, but has an aluminum frame. The Taurus PT1911 is a 1911 design pistol and, as such, is nowhere near as reliable as the Beretta design. The Beretta has no extractor, no ejection port and no ramp to hang up on. In one of the initial military tests it had a malfunction rate of one every 2000 rounds. The S&W 459 (a very reliable pistol) had a malfunction rate of one every 952 rounds.

Although 1911s can be made reliable with time, effort and $$$, they don't usually tumble out of the box with a high reliability factor. Some may, but they're flukes. I still see 1911s jamming almost every time I go to a crowded range. I could say, especially a Taurus, but I...oh, what the heck, yes I will...especially a Taurus!

If you want a GREAT all steel .45ACP, you can't beat a S&W 4506 (or older 645). These things are larger than 1911s, double-action and are built like tanks. They also are far more reliable than any 1911 I've ever seen. Oh, and you can generally find them at a decent price...and did I mention they're stainless steel? A S&W rep, I'm told, demonstrated the reliability of this gun by feeding empty cases into the 645 (the older model) from the magazine. That's a pretty good design.

Still, all things considered, I'd take the Beretta. Sometime I think you could hammer a magazine full of ammo into that thing backward and it would still feed and fire. Some people don't like the grips; others think they're great, so try it before you buy.
 
Well, 9mm is considerably cheaper than .45 ACP, though the difference isn't really appreciable over 200 rounds.

The 1911 is a classic, though some would argue a Brazilian-made variant with flared ejection port, light rail, skeletonized hammer, etc. kind of negates that point.

Both are popular platforms with widely available aftermarket grips, magazines, sights, etc. Given that they're both so different, I would strongly suggest you try both before you buy. What sounds good on paper is a starting point, not necessarily something you should go out and spend money on.

I have tried several guns which I had researched for quite some time. They had all the features that I wanted, were in the right price range, and I was sure they were the perfect guns for me. After renting them at the range, I changed my mind. That $35 range trip saved me from having to sell a gun I didn't like.
 
ok, well, my range dont have rented firearms:(

but i can see which one i like better in my hands at my local sporting goods stores

how is the 92FS so much more reliable than the PT1911?

i think im starting to lean towards a 92FS.

what does "FS" and "PT" stand for? sorry for the newbbi question:)


Thanks
 
I have owned 2 PT's and 2 Berettas. Very little difference between the 2. The Beretta is made a bit better IMO, but the Taurus was just as dependable, and I like the safety location better.
 
[edit] History
The Beretta 92 pistol evolved from earlier Beretta designs, most notably the M1922 and M1951. From the M1922 comes the open slide design, while the alloy frame and locking block barrel (originally from Walther P38) were first used in the M1951. The grip angle and the front sight integrated with the slide were also common to earlier Beretta pistols.

The Beretta 92 first appeared in 1975[1] and was designed by Carlo Beretta, Giuseppe Mazzetti and Vittorio Valle, all experienced firearms designers on the Beretta design team.


[edit] 92
About 5000 copies of the first design were manufactured from 1975 to 1976.


[edit] 92S
In order to meet requirements of some law enforcement agencies, Beretta modified the Beretta 92 by adding a slide-mounted combined safety and decocking lever, replacing the frame mounted manual thumb safety. This resulted in the 92S which was adopted by several Italian law enforcement and military units. The later relocation of the magazine release button means these models (92 & 92S) cannot necessarily use later magazines, unless they have notches in both areas.


[edit] 92SB (92S-1)
The extremely rare 92SB, Initially called the 92S-1, was specifically designed for the USAF (US Air Force) trials (which it won), the model name officially adopted was the 92SB. It included the changes of the 92S, added a firing pin block (thus the addition of the "B" to the name), and relocated the magazine release catch from the bottom of the grip to the lower bottom of the trigger guard.

92SB Compact (1981 – 1991), shortened barrel and slide (13-round magazine capacity). It was replaced by the "92 Compact L"..

[edit] 92F (92SB-F)
Beretta modified the model 92SB slightly to create the 92SB-F (the "F" added to denote entry of the model in U.S. Government federal testing) and, later, the 92G for French Government testing, by making the following changes:

Design of all the parts to make them 100% interchangeable to simplify maintenance for large government organizations.
Modified the front of the trigger guard so that one could use finger support for easier aiming.
Recurved the forward base of the grip to aid aiming.
Hard chromed the barrel bore to protect it from corrosion and to reduce wear.
New surface coating on the slide called Bruniton, which allegedly provides better corrosion resistance than the previous plain blued finish.

[edit] 92FS
The FS has an enlarged hammer pin that fits into a groove on the underside of the slide. The main purpose is to retard the slide from flying off the frame to the rear if it cracks. This was in response to reported defective slides during US Military testing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/92FS#92FS
 
i dont know much about cars, so the corvette to a ferrari, i dont understand, well, is it like a Ford F-150 to a toyota (i dont like toyota).




i dont know about falling towards it, but im sure leaning thataway:)

thanks for the historical quote:)

Thanks
 
and Taurus also made (makes) a 92 which is better than the current berettas in function. why, because they went back to the original design... The PT1911 is a great gun, the beretta 92's are great guns, and the Taurus 92's are great guns. I would not say one is better than the other only has advantages in different aspects of shooting... I plan on owning a Taurus 92 in the very near future.
 
Comparing a Beretta and a Taurus to a Ferrari Hugo would be correct if the Ferrari is made of plastic. I own guns made by both and I prefer the Taurus as it has no plastic parts, the safety is where a human can use it and its just as reliable and shoots as well as the Berettas. Its more like 2 F-150s and one had the crappy toyo paint job on it.
 
What garentee does Taurus and Beretta have, I'm looking for a GOOD one?

I've thought about the Taurus M9s, but how would they be better than Berettas? Are they the same size, capacity, etc.?

The Taurus is also a bit cheaper too.

Where are the Berettas plastic? Is it that critical?

Please help me like y'all have been doing.
 
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