beretta92 or H&K USP, the 9mm conundrum of the century

[thrilldo higgins]

i feel the title says it all, i am at a standpoint as to which one i want to buy. both feel great, both are quality, though i feel the h&k is a little higher up there, i can't decide. any input on this score would be most helpful.

note: BE VERY OPINIONATED


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[HighVelocity]

Hk uses polygonal rifling in the USP, like a Glock (no cast bullets). The 92 uses standard rifling so if you ever want to shoot cast lead bullets then this might be an issue for you.

They're both great guns so whichever you choose will serve you well.

 

[C-grunt]

You already said it, HK is a little higher quality. Whether or not this is actually true, you believe the Hk to be a better weapon, so get it.

I would personaly get the HK because I think they shoot, look, and feel awesome. Though I wouldnt pass up a Berretta if it were given to me.

 

[Grunt]

Carry over from the other forum.

 

[Highland Ranger]

no loser here but hk gets the nod . . .

 

[Grunt]

The USP hands down. I work in the armory for my unit and I still see a lot of cracked locking blocks, cracked and even a couple broken slides on the M9. Yes, I do own a Beretta 92FS but I think if it wasn't the standard issue sidearm (it's always nice to practice in my off time with the same weapon I carry) I doubt I would own one. I also have a USP-45F and a USP-40C and of all my handguns, those two would be the last ones to go.

 

[WarMachine]

I'd go with the USP personally, but I am not willing to pay $700 for one...

 

[Preacherman]

Duplicate threads merged. Thrilldo, please DO NOT post threads asking the same question in more than one forum.

 

[Cueball]

As was already mentioned, there is no loser in this. I have both of the guns you listed. Both are good weapons but I would go with the HK.

 

[psyopspec]

Have you considered an HK P2000?

I've owned both of the models you mentioned, and while the particular Beretta I owned had a smoother trigger pull in DA mode, the HK had better ergos for me. I've since found the P2000 is an improvemnet over both.

Check out my range report here.

 

[gudel]

note: BE VERY OPINIONATED

I really like my Beretta 92FS even though I'm HK kind of guy. The 92FS has extremely smooth action, not even my premium Sig P220ST or Colt 1911/SA 1911 can come close to Beretta's extremely silky smooth action, they can't touch the 92FS in reliability performance out of the box.

If you've got sissy girliemen hands like most people you hear complaining about fat grip here (not you psyopspec), the 92FS is not for you, USP9 would fit better for little man hands.

There's always an option to: BUY BOTH!!

Mine over here, both of them 92FS and USP9 (and all 4 of them guns) have been reliable 100% out of the box. None of that bullcrap like extractor tuning, feed ramp polishing mumbo jumbo, nor magazine tweaking balooney.
They work right, and they work 100% out of the box.

 

[SAG0282]

Not much of a conundrum if you ask me......used to have and carry a USPf 9, and loved it. Amazing pistol. My experience with Beretta has been...less encouraging. The HK is superior to the Beretta IMVHO.

 

[ParChaser]

own both, love both...

If money isnt an issue get both. Preference is the HK ups v1 40. go to a place where you can test fire them and also try the hk p2000 lem 40 cal.

 

[Smurfslayer]

I have both. My USP 9 extractor broke at 8k rounds. My 92FS (& G slide to go with it) has over 19k rounds on all original springs, even magazines and it still runs like a top. It had 2 failures to feed from a single ramline magazine (which I only used once) and has otherwise been flawless. The USP has failed to feed once, and failed to fully chamber one other time and sits at about 12.5k rounds now. I will without hesitation use / carry both.

If I were you, and I were sentenced to only one gun, I would consider the following.

Shoot them both. Not just with Winchester white box & CCI blazer, but with defense loads you would use for personal protection. They have to shoot well IN YOUR HANDS for you to bless them, regardless of what keyboard commandos here might think

Have you tried the PX4? If not, try it, you just might like it. They can be had at a bargain still...

If you want night sights, advantage HK (unless you're thinking of a 92G-SD, or Elite 2) since the HK slide is dovetailed, the Beretta 92FS is not. Some models do come with Trijicon inserts though...

Trigger: Variant 1 HK / Beretta 92. Slight advantage to the Beretta IMO.

One nice thing about the HK - it can be reconfigured to the LEM trigger, which is very nice, or a variety of other configurations, DAO, SAO, decocker only.

Magazines? The Beretta mags cost half what the HK mags cost.
Parts? - you have to be an armorer to get HK parts. BUSA will ship most parts direct.

weight - 'advantage'? depends. For H/D? Beretta - extra weight helps keep the muzzle down w/ defensive loads. For carrying? HK...

I suggest you give them both a try at the range, and buy a model of the one you shoot best.

 

[BlkHawk73]

Which one fits you better. Buying a higher quality one that doesn't fit your hand isn't the greatest idea. Personally, the Bereta doesn't fit me as well as the USP does. My result: USP and USP Elite.

 

[thrilldo higgins]

thanks for the great advice everyone, and by the way the duplicate post was an accident

 

[jeepmor]

Either is a good choice for a reliable pistol.

"When one enjoys expensive fine guns, one is labeled gunsnob by others. I have no sophisticated name for them. I just call them cheap." from gudel


People are labelled 'gunsnobs' for their judgement of others who choose not to spend the same money they did, not vice versa.

jeepmor

Either pistol is great, reliability is key, both have it in spades.

 

[gudel]

i hit a nerve.

to the original poster, buy both. my statement stands.

 

[10-Ring]

I couldn't decide, so I have a 92 Centurion, an inox 92fs, a USP 9 & USPc 9 :banghead: But I'm a better man for it!

 

[idahoberetta9000s]

Whichever one you choose, they are both excellent handguns. I own a Beretta 92fs, so I am partial to them, but I also like Hk's.

 

[IndianaDean]

I own a USP, but would have no problem at all owning a 92.

 

[JohnKSa]

I own both.

The USP is a bit smaller and maybe lighter if you want to carry it.

I find the Beretta more fun to shoot, partly because it fits my hand well. If your hand is on the small side, the H&K might be a better choice. My wife hates my Beretta but loves the H&K--she says it recoils less than any of my 9mm pistols.

Sights are similar, triggers are pretty similar, can't tell much of a difference in accuracy potential. The best centerfire pistol group I have ever fired was with a Beretta 92, but that's probably because I have shot Berettas more than the USP.

The Beretta is easier to detail strip, and mags & accessories tend to be cheaper. Beretta mags cost about half as much.

As far as durability, I think either one of them is going to outlast most shooters' lifetime ammo budget.

The Beretta locking block issue seems to be mostly solved--and anyway they take about 2 minutes to replace and don't usually cause any peripheral damage if they break although they do tie up the gun. If you worry a lot, you can replace it every 50K rounds and stop worrying.

I've never had a malfunction of any kind with a Beretta (I've owned three 92 series pistols). I've had a couple of failures to extract with the USP. I blamed it on the ammo since both rounds were out of a single box of WWB and the gun has otherwise been faultless.

I'd take either one and be happy. Buy both of them.

 

[Gixerman1000]

I own both and you can't go wrong with either

 

[Optical Serenity]

I've shot both, and hands down I like the USP better. Its just much more feasible for me. Also, its very ambidextrous. Plus I think it looks better.

 

[Rob96]

Me personally, I don't like the feel of the USP, so I would choose the Beretta. But I would take the P226 over the Beretta.