HAHA some of the responses in this thread are classic!
I think there were other options besides shooting the cat that were better.
I think there were other options besides shooting the cat that were better.
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There is nothing natural in North America about feral housecats. They kill way too many animals to be considered natural and in tune with their ecosystem. Cats were brought to North America.
Even if your animal made its way onto my property and started doing damage? Methinks those of you that place animals above people ought to rethink your positions. It's usually folks that take your position that are the first to ignore leash laws and allow their animals to roam free.
All cats are hunters.Feral cats kill to eat and will attack you if cornered.House hold cats (pets) will hunt their prey play with it for a hour,them maybe kill it or just leave it to die a slow death.We have very few feral cats in the UK,I think people shoot them ?
Absolutely! There are as many as 70 MILLION feral cats in the U.S. alone. Do a quick study of feral cats on the net, and you find out they reek massive destruction on the worlds indigenous species. We would be doing the world... and he U.S..... a HUGE favor by eliminating them.
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It amazes me, the number of people who think they have the RIGHT to have their animals on OTHER people's property without their permission. A friend had a serious problem with this. His neighbors REFUSED to keep their cats off of his property, where they crapped in his garden, killed birds, and tracked muddy footprints all over his vehicles. He called Animal Control who did nothing. He started leaving saucers of Prestone out for them. When the neighbors started coming onto his property to break the saucers and physically threatened him, he resorted to a 6' blowgun. Their cats started disappearing. THEN they started keeping the cats indoors.
I wonder what these idiots would think if other people started parking their cars on their lawns. After all, I have no less right to use their lawns as a parking lot than they do to use my property as a catbox.
I have killed Feral Cats with a 20 cal pellet gun (Kept at close range), 177cal pellet gun, 22 CB, CB Long, short, and LR. I have even been known to use a 220 Swift on them if we were out side of town. It was odd though I one time shot a cat on the railroad tracks went to pick it up (Now I shot at him with a 220 Swift running 50gr Nosler BT and 4064) he was as dead as dead could be but you would think it would be a gore filled blood and guts everywhere sight, but there was not a mark on the cat not one. The only thing I can think of is that I hit the track and the bullet fragmented and he caught some of the frags and thats what killed him.
I would use that new GAMO air rifle that has the suppressor on it.
I would use that new GAMO air rifle that has the suppressor on it.
How do you tell the difference between a Feral cat and somones pet? I am willing to bet the guy didn't take the time to look for a collar.
Animals do not have a sense of property lines. Would the people advocating the killing of other peoples pets feel the same way if it were thier dogs?
I am a Cat lover. My wife and I have 3 cats. Once we build our house on my land we will have a lot more. And I will be honest. I am very protective of my cats. Coyotes have been shot for less than killing one of mine. If a person harmed one of my animals I don't know what I would do, but it would not be pretty, and it would not be High Road material.
And speaking of Non THR material. LEaving out platters of Prestone? My opinions on that and what do do about it would probably get me banned here.
Animals do not have a sense of property lines. Would the people advocating the killing of other peoples pets feel the same way if it were thier dogs?
I am a Cat lover. My wife and I have 3 cats. Once we build our house on my land we will have a lot more. And I will be honest. I am very protective of my cats. Coyotes have been shot for less than killing one of mine. If a person harmed one of my animals I don't know what I would do, but it would not be pretty, and it would not be High Road material.
And speaking of Non THR material. LEaving out platters of Prestone? My opinions on that and what do do about it would probably get me banned here.
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In most municipalities, leash laws apply just as much to cats as they do to dogs. I know in my city they do. If you can't control your animals, others will.
You say it's just a cat being a cat? Well, if I dispose of a cat that's tearing up my property, it's just a homeowner being a homeowner. I worked hard and paid good money for my house, vehicles, and other belongings. Nobody has the right to let their cats run free on land that I am paying for. Period. Full stop.
I could let my heeler take care of the cats. He's quite good at it. One time he caught one just as it started up a telephone pole. I pulled him off just in time. I guarantee you that he would be less ethical and humane to that cat than I would have.
In most municipalities, leash laws apply just as much to cats as they do to dogs. I know in my city they do. If you can't control your animals, others will.
You say it's just a cat being a cat? Well, if I dispose of a cat that's tearing up my property, it's just a homeowner being a homeowner. I worked hard and paid good money for my house, vehicles, and other belongings. Nobody has the right to let their cats run free on land that I am paying for. Period. Full stop.
I could let my heeler take care of the cats. He's quite good at it. One time he caught one just as it started up a telephone pole. I pulled him off just in time. I guarantee you that he would be less ethical and humane to that cat than I would have.
I have had animals on my property doing damage, usually dogs though, not cats. I have ran them off and taken measures against them. But I have never resorted to anything that would harm another living creature unless I was 100% sure it was needed. See my comments about the Coyotes for that.
So it's okay for you to kill a coyote for doing what coyotes do, but you'd do something dreadful to another human who killed one of your cats for doing what cats do? How do you reconcile this to yourself?
I still want to know why a lot of cat owners think it's perfectly acceptable to let their animals roam free and possibly do damage to others' property. It seems as if that is the position taken. I also wonder why some of them would kill a person that disposed of a cat that was tearing up things. And, yes, that is what a few have implied. If your cat has a tag and roams the neighborhood, and your city has a leash law, why do you think it OK to break that law?
At any rate, the original premise was feral cats. Strays are oftentimes feral.
At any rate, the original premise was feral cats. Strays are oftentimes feral.
No, there is also a lot of "shoot'em all and let God (or somebody) sort'em out". I don't advocate allowing someone else's property to deny a person use of their own property. But blanket statements such as
Cats aren't dogs - a dog can usually be trained not to leave its property - muddy footprints on a car or patio or whatever is petty slim justification for eliminating someone's pet. But, if that floats your boat so be it.
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I notice you didn't address leash laws.
My question about them remains. They often apply to cats too. Is it OK for a cat owner to break that law just because a cat is wired a certain way?
I notice you didn't address leash laws.
My question about them remains. They often apply to cats too. Is it OK for a cat owner to break that law just because a cat is wired a certain way?
Tell ya what - I woke up one morning and walked outside to start up my scoot only to find muddy paw prints on my fatbobs and my new leather King/Queen seat with claw marks all over it where a damn cat had used it as a $400 sharpening post. The gloves came off that day.
Lotta cats would still be breathing if the owners were more responsible. If your cat suffers an unfortunate accident while on my property, it's because *you* didn't care enough about the little bastard to keep it in the house.
Bottom damn line.
Biker
Lotta cats would still be breathing if the owners were more responsible. If your cat suffers an unfortunate accident while on my property, it's because *you* didn't care enough about the little bastard to keep it in the house.
Bottom damn line.
Biker
It seems that everywhere I move someone thinks it is a good idea to let their dog run loose or their cats wander around,the pets that I have fall under "livestock" here in MI which basically says if they get attacked I can shoot, that doesnt mean I will (suburbia) which is why I have airsoft guns (best less-lethal IMO)
Lets look at another fact it is a nature lover type guy who shot the cat, normally these people are anti's.
For caliber a suppressed .22, like what most of the city animal controls use
EDIT "unfortunate accident" funniest thing so far today.
Lets look at another fact it is a nature lover type guy who shot the cat, normally these people are anti's.
For caliber a suppressed .22, like what most of the city animal controls use
EDIT "unfortunate accident" funniest thing so far today.
No it isn't. Deal with the owner; and, I can't argue with this part of the post which also applies equally to cattle, dirt bikes, ATV's and other things (or should).
I have 2 cats one 19 and the other 14 years old. They like dogs, and other pets are members of my family. Had this guy or any other shot my family member he would get shot back.
I suggest anyone who wants to shoot domestic pets check with a theripast you have a problem.
I suggest anyone who wants to shoot domestic pets check with a theripast you have a problem.
I don't get much in the way of cattle, but if one wanders into the neighborhood, I'm thinking steaks for a month!
Seriously though, dealing with the owner is fine in theory, but as you can see from the responses on the thread, many cat owners think it's A-OK to let their pets run loose. What then? Call the cops? I have been told that they have better things to worry about. Animal control? The work bankers hours around here. After hours they tell you to call the cops. Circle complete.
As for a cat with no tags that is likely a feral, who would you talk to?
Here we go again. Threatening to off a HUMAN over a CAT. People have lost their minds.
Do YOU keep your cats out of others' yards and off their belongings? If not, why do you think it is OK for YOUR 'family member' to trespass on others' property?
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