Best Glock caliber for home defense
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This thread needs to get back on track. If people here cannot understand that some folks will prefer just the opposite of their choices w/o creating posts containing no pertinent information to the thread or that are bickering with another poster, they may very well wind up with more time to contemplate it when banned. I've received 3 complaints on threads in this one section in the past two days. If we cannot act as adults and if banning is the only way, so be it. I do not fool around with personal warnings as adults should be able to figure out if they're stepping over the line. Make sure that you don't if you enjoy posting here.
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9mm..enough said.
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So Yehen:
Have you made up your mind yet? Do you believe the model that is built on a smaller frame and has good stopping power "45 Gap" is the way to go or maybe the 40 cal that has the ability to use numerous barrels (if you go to Lone Wolf you will find them) or how about the model that is 45 cal and can be used with a 400 corbon barrel? 45/400 would be good in the wilderness of Canada?
Any thoughts
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Have you made up your mind yet? Do you believe the model that is built on a smaller frame and has good stopping power "45 Gap" is the way to go or maybe the 40 cal that has the ability to use numerous barrels (if you go to Lone Wolf you will find them) or how about the model that is 45 cal and can be used with a 400 corbon barrel? 45/400 would be good in the wilderness of Canada?
Any thoughts
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Took a look at a slim Glock 21 with a rail. Probably gonna that and an M6X or a GTL 21. 45's are pretty slow moving round so that'll probably help me when it comes to avoiding overpenetration and something with enough stopping power. Thanks for all the help =)
possum
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i am not really a fan of any glock other than 9mm and the glock 19 happens to be my favorite of the bunch so i would personally go with that. you get alot of capacity, and with the +p and +p+ offerings out there today you will have plenty of "stoping" power as well as the capacity.
CountGlockula
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Great choice on the G21SF...actually ANY Glock is a great choice.
Make sure you give us a range report!
Make sure you give us a range report!
There is no "correct" answer, you are only going to get opinions, and they will vary greatlly. You aren't asking about a "Glock", by now I guess you realise that, just 'google', the different calibers and types of ammo, or read about them, it's much easier now with "search engines", until you are content with one that fits your needs.
Northalius
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Get the Glock 20.
10mm = Most versatile round out of any other!
Double Taps' 135 grain 10mm round actually FRAGGED after traveling 11" in gel... after going as fast as 1600 fps.
Then you can get loaded 10mm as weak as .40, if you really wanted to. Or stronger than .357 Magnum, for hunting, or simply major stopping power on criminals!
So, again, I'd suggest the Glock 20!
Oh, and I agree, pay more attention to hitting what you aim at, instead of worrying about overpenetration. Once a bullet travels through someone, especially after expanding, it'll not go much further, especially if it's going to hit another wall.
10mm = Most versatile round out of any other!
Double Taps' 135 grain 10mm round actually FRAGGED after traveling 11" in gel... after going as fast as 1600 fps.
Then you can get loaded 10mm as weak as .40, if you really wanted to. Or stronger than .357 Magnum, for hunting, or simply major stopping power on criminals!
So, again, I'd suggest the Glock 20!
Oh, and I agree, pay more attention to hitting what you aim at, instead of worrying about overpenetration. Once a bullet travels through someone, especially after expanding, it'll not go much further, especially if it's going to hit another wall.
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Good choice with the G21 sf. Sf stands for short frame not slim. The only slim Glock, the 36, wasn't really accepted well, and it looks like cause of that we will never see a true "slim" Glock.
No, the .45's slow speed helps it penetrate further when walls are concerned. Its the width of the .45 that'll slow it down quicker compared to .40 and 9mm. 9mm can realy cut through a house sometimes. I saw a 9mm hole go through 2 houses! Allthough the safest round for overpenetration is the FN 5.7x28mm in the 5-7 and PS90. Highspeed lightweight round that is desighned not to penetrate far after hitting the first barrier.
Anyways, perfect choice in the 21sf. Bravo. Now post pics.
ps. Ar15>Rem 870 for home defense.
No, the .45's slow speed helps it penetrate further when walls are concerned. Its the width of the .45 that'll slow it down quicker compared to .40 and 9mm. 9mm can realy cut through a house sometimes. I saw a 9mm hole go through 2 houses! Allthough the safest round for overpenetration is the FN 5.7x28mm in the 5-7 and PS90. Highspeed lightweight round that is desighned not to penetrate far after hitting the first barrier.
Anyways, perfect choice in the 21sf. Bravo. Now post pics.
ps. Ar15>Rem 870 for home defense.
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huh?
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9mm went through eight 3/4 inch Ponderosa Pine boards and bounced off the ninth. BTW, those boards are much tougher than 5/8" sheetrock wallboards.
.45ACP went through seven boards and bounced off the eighth.
And these were JHP's, not ball ammo.
Eight boards is like shooting from your room, and landing inside the walls of a room, 3 doors down. It would probably penetrate at least 5 or 6 doors down if the walls were typical sheetrock.
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm
The differences are negligible at best. So unless you sleep in the middle of a house built like the Pentagon, over penetration should be an afterthought. Just practice your aim and try not to miss.
BTW, if you're really concerned about over penetration... where 9mm and .45ACP penetrated 12 boards of sheetrock, #4 and #1 buckshot only penetrated 6 boards. So for home defense, it's tough to beat a shotgun.
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3_2.htm
.45ACP went through seven boards and bounced off the eighth.
And these were JHP's, not ball ammo.
Eight boards is like shooting from your room, and landing inside the walls of a room, 3 doors down. It would probably penetrate at least 5 or 6 doors down if the walls were typical sheetrock.
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm
The differences are negligible at best. So unless you sleep in the middle of a house built like the Pentagon, over penetration should be an afterthought. Just practice your aim and try not to miss.
BTW, if you're really concerned about over penetration... where 9mm and .45ACP penetrated 12 boards of sheetrock, #4 and #1 buckshot only penetrated 6 boards. So for home defense, it's tough to beat a shotgun.
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3_2.htm
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Beat me to it.
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If this is your first handgun, I'd go with 9mm, cheaper to shoot, and less recoil. If I was a more experianced handgunner, I'd go with .45, although if this is only for inside the house, you may want to consider ACP instead of GAP. If you're going to carry it, even the g30 is about the same size as a g23, within a few millimeters height, so I'd probably use GAP.
As for shotgun ammo, buckshot is better for stopping power, and will go through less walls than a handgun, and birdshot will go through even less walls, though you risk it not stopping.
As for shotgun ammo, buckshot is better for stopping power, and will go through less walls than a handgun, and birdshot will go through even less walls, though you risk it not stopping.
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Another vote for the .45 GAP
4 state police agencies have adopted the 45 gap; New York, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and South Carolina, and more are considering it. Why?
1. It fits in a smaller frame than the .45 ACP, which fit the majority of officer's hands better.
2. The stopping power of the .45 ballistics (.45 colt/.45 ACP/.45 GAP) are proven.
3. It does not have over-penetration issues like the .40 S&W.
4. In extensive testing, which came down to the .40 S&W vs. the .45 GAP, more officers preferred the recoil pattern of the .45 GAP to the .40 S&W, saying it was more of a "push" than a "snap" like the .40 S&W.
The .45 GAP is basically a .45 ACP shortened to the length of a 9mm. It makes sense.
Oh, and one more reason, if you currently don't have any handgun ammo and you're going to buy a gun, you can actually find .45 GAP ammo for sale now.
4 state police agencies have adopted the 45 gap; New York, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and South Carolina, and more are considering it. Why?
1. It fits in a smaller frame than the .45 ACP, which fit the majority of officer's hands better.
2. The stopping power of the .45 ballistics (.45 colt/.45 ACP/.45 GAP) are proven.
3. It does not have over-penetration issues like the .40 S&W.
4. In extensive testing, which came down to the .40 S&W vs. the .45 GAP, more officers preferred the recoil pattern of the .45 GAP to the .40 S&W, saying it was more of a "push" than a "snap" like the .40 S&W.
The .45 GAP is basically a .45 ACP shortened to the length of a 9mm. It makes sense.
Oh, and one more reason, if you currently don't have any handgun ammo and you're going to buy a gun, you can actually find .45 GAP ammo for sale now.
10-Ring
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IMO, Glock did its best work in 9mm so, if you're trying to decide which fullsize Glock to go w/ -- G17
Why do I think Glock did its best work in 9mm? Fewest reported problems (real or otherwise!), greatest recorded longevity and its the caliber the firearm was developed for
Why do I think Glock did its best work in 9mm? Fewest reported problems (real or otherwise!), greatest recorded longevity and its the caliber the firearm was developed for
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.40 cal or 10mm models
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Really? I mean, really?
I wear a 1" thick steel door from a pot-belly stove. I ain't skeered of your little .40 long.
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As explained to me by a NYS Trooper, the .45 GAP is made for people with small hands who want to shoot Glocks. The stopping power of a .45 is wanted/needed, but the handle on the .45ACP Glock is so big that the gun is hard for a small handed person to control. Apparently the .45GAP version is "just enough" smaller.
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