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Best Gun Lubricant?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Gtimothy, Mar 10, 2012.

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  1. Gtimothy

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    I have a question about gun oils and lubes. I was at the range yesterday sighting in my new AR when I had a major gun jam. Turns out I didn't do a very good job of lubricating the BCG.:uhoh: The range officer told me to take it up to the office building and they would lube it up for me. I've always been of the opinion that too much oil in a gun is a BAD thing, but the smith in the office told me that if an AR isn't just about dripping, you're asking for trouble. He then used liberal amounts of what he called "Grandma's Goose Grease" but wouldn't divulge what it really was. After I finished my day at the range (no more issues with the AR) I inspected the gun and cleaned everything. I noticed that the oil was thicker and more slippery than the Hoppes Gun Oil that I use. Anyone have a favorite that they would care to share? I'm still going to see if the smith will divulge the true identity of his oil of choice. Thanks!
     
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    Pick a synthetic lube. I have used breekfree clp for 40+ years so I guess its ok. If your ar was from a quality company when you took it down to look around the bolt should have been rather wet. That is the way to keep it and in the ejection port with the bolt closed there are 2 holes that you can place a drop of oil in to keep the bolt running free between cleanings if needed.
     
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    Theres no best lubricant for the AR-15 or any other gun. There are a great number of lubricants that work equally well. My choice is Mili-Tec 1.
     
  6. The Sarge

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    Clean it.
    Lubricate it.
    Shoot it.
    Repeat above.

    I use copper anti seize or brake caliper synthetic grease.
    Little dab will do ya.
     
  7. Smokey Joe

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    Oil...

    Agree with Alasaqr on this one. There are many very good gun oils. Some have specific purposes outside the mainstream. Most will work well to very well under most conditions.

    Agree with yr gunsmith, G. Timothy: A firearm's workin's should be a little sloppy with oil, rather than the reverse. My autoloading target pistols cry oil tears during timed and rapid fire. I just wipe it off and continue.

    I use Mobil 1 myself--Bo't a quart for abt. $8 a while back, and am now set for life for gun oil. That's a little steep for car engine oil, IMHO, but compared to several dollars for a 4 oz. bottle of "real" gun oil, it's cheap. To dispense, I put it in one of those oilcans with a pump and a thumb lever, available in most hdwe stores.

    However, I've used a variety of oils for firearms, over the years, and most of them worked just fine. The one I would not recommend is 3-in-1, as it has a paraffin content which can accumulate in a firearm's worky bits, and mebbe gum things up.

    For REALLY cold applications, I'd use Kroil, but it's too thin to use at normal temps. It is a good penetrating oil if you have 2 parts jammed on each other. The NRA published a study many years ago, back when I was a teenager, on low-temp lubes. In far-sub-zero temps, everything but kerosene froze up and jammed the weapon. But this was before we had all the super-oils available today. (Sorry, no citation available. It was LONG ago.)

    Any sort of grease, including Grandma's Goose, is too thick IMO to use in a firearm, except at consistent high temps. Once had a 1911 stop working, at temps just around freezing, with the slide lubed with Wilson Combat gun grease. So I stopped using it.

    Other shooters' MMV.
     
  8. Sky

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    The range I frequent uses Breakfree CLP for their rental guns. They never get cleaned and are shot hundreds if not thousands of rounds weekly. I switched over to Breakfree CLP a few years ago and have not had any corrosion or problems jamming. My guns are not ran dripping wet or so wet they spray a white shirt with oil when fired but I am not someone to do bump fire mag dumps just because?? As already stated there are many good lubes from ATF, syn oils like Mobile 1 and others. There are guys who have used WD-40 even though it is not a lube; yet they say it works for them so go figure. There are several threads about lubes and even some actual test where lubes were compared on metal and sprayed with salt water. Breakfree CLP has always come out in the top 3 of the test I have seen, so for my weapons it works just fine. Are there better products, no doubt, but for an all around cleaner, lubricant, and protectant it is not bad or expensive IMO. I like the different size cans and little straw////go figure?
     
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    Clean it with "Break Free" and then lub it with same.
     
  10. Chindo18Z

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    There are a lot of great lubes out there. Slip2000 comes to mind.

    Personally, I've been using BreakFree (CLP) since I participated in Army testing of the stuff back in '78. Once I saw just how well it worked for automatic weapons under crappy conditions...I never looked back.

    I've carried ARs of one format or another for 35 years and never remotely considered changing lube.

    In 2009, I fired 1140 rounds (38 x 30 rd magazines) of M855 5.56 through my M4A1, full auto, in 28.5 minutes. Lubed with CLP. Not dripping, but fairly wet. My carbine was relatively clean and dry and I oiled it just prior to firing as I stood on the range. I shotgunned the upper receiver, dripped some CLP on the trigger group, liberally coated the charging handle, chamber, and bolt carrier group (without disassembling the bolt from the bolt carrier) and slapped it back together. The weapon ran like a scalded ape, without a stutter or malfunction, and without any further lube.



    The biggest user of AR platforms is the US military. BreakFree CLP has worked quite well in military combat weapons for decades.

    That's a clue...
     
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    Best Gun Lubricant! Ain't no such thing. This is like asking which is the best engine oil, all depends on the circumstances.

    However there is a lubricant being marketed by elves in the deep Black Forest, that has been secretly extracted from a planet far, far away in another galaxy. Amazingly it naturally refines itself upon entering our magantic field. Be sure to look for it at your local gun store in the near future.
     
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    Breakfree CLP all the way.

    Lubricates, and holds grit and debris in suspension quite nicely.

    Simple Green to clean (it removes Breakfree CLP nicely too) and BreakFree CLP to lubricate and you will be all set.

    I received a small oiler of Weapon Shield and used that for a bit, but found at temperatures in the single digits gave some issues, and by the time temps hit -5 (-20 with windchill) the rifle was very unreliable. I haven't shot my firearms with BreakFree CLP at that temp range, but I know the military has, and specs say it can easily handle it.
     
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    Found some royal purple with synerlec in a spray can at Oreilly's. Giving it a trial run on my guns. Haven't used it long enough to make any statements yet. The only other lubricants I use are CLP and Rem Oil with teflon. I am keeping these on hand in case the royal purple bites the proverbial bullet.
     
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    I appreciate all of the comments and I guess I'll buy some Break Free CLP tomorrow on my way home from work. Thanks guys!
     
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    I was with the 2nd MAW G-4 Ordnance and I remember when the Corps tried their own test after the Army's. They took a M-16, M-60 MG & a M-61 20 mm Cannon. They broke them down and cleaned the hell out of them, then lubed them with CLP.
    They fired thousands of rounds (I don't recall figures) without any stoppages or malfunctions.
    The Corps switched to CLP right away.

    Great stuff!
     
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    Ballistol. Hands down only product you need for anything you want to do.


    Hickok45 from youtube got me on it, been using it to clean/lube/rust-prevention/air-freshener ever since.
     
  17. Jeff22

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    lubrication

    I generally use grease on the slides of my auto pistols. Lubriplate, TW-25B, Brian Enos Slide Glide, Shooter's Choice Red Grease, MD7, I've used all of them with good success. (However, I have observed IPSC shooters having problems with Slide Glide when shooting a match outdoors in really cold weather. It thickens up and reduces slide velocity and causes malfunctions)

    I use grease on a gun that will be carried for at least a couple of weeks before being shot & recleaned, which applies to my duty gun for work and whichever off duty auto is in the rotation for this quarter. I haven't noticed a problem with grease in really cold weather, but if it's that cold I'm probably not out on the range for more than 90 minutes anyway.

    On guns that will be shot more frequently than that, I usually use oil. I usually use Slip 2000 EWL (extreme weapons lubricant) or 10-8 Performance Lube. On my AR-15 I usually use the EWL but LSA will work, or Mobil 1 or whatever . . . James Yeager of Tactical Response uses high temp wheel bearing grease . . .

    For regular lube I've used Triflow, Triflon, Break Free CLP, GI LSA, Militec, FP-101, Marvel Mystery Oil mixed with STP, Weapon Shield, Gun Butter, Machine Gunner's Lube, etc. and haven't had any problems with those, either. My mechanic uses Mobil One as a lube on his rifles and is very happy with it.

    20+ years ago I shot on the State ARNG pistol team (to be honest, I was 2nd alternate) with a couple of old timers who made their own "Red Oil". If they liked you, they'd put a little bit on the slide rails of your M1911. It was a big honor. "Red Oil" was a mix of STP, Marvel Mystery Oil, Breakfree, sometimes automatic transmission fluid, and something else that I don't remember anymore.

    Seemed to lubricate okay. Tended to get all over the lenses of your shooting glasses because it was kind of thin.

    If you search around on the net, Pat Rogers has an article in SWAT magazine a few years ago discussing lubrication of the AR-15, and also Grant Cunninghan the revolver specialist has a VERY detailed discussion of lubricants on his web sites. Both articles are recommended reading.

    Lots of guys seem to like to make their own lube and their own cleaning solutions and you can find that info on the net if you look a little bit.

    I've always liked CLP as a lubricant but I prefer GI RBC (rifle bore cleaner) or Hoppe's #9 or Shooter's Choice as a solvent. I find CLP to be kind of thick for optimum use as a cleaner.
     
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    A mixture of oil and grease also works well in cold weather. I like to use microbrush applicators for precise placement of lubricants on slide rails, etc.
     
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    Another Mobil 1 fan here. Cleaning my AR's moving parts amounts to spraying with WD40 and wiping dry, apply Mobil 1 on contact points and all over the bolt from the gas rings back.
     
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    I prefer Slip 2000 EWL, it stays put and doesn't dry up after sitting in the safe for a few weeks like Breakfree CLP does. Whatever lube you use on the AR, run the BCG wet, there's no such thing as too much lube here.
     
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    Breakfree is all I use.

    Some like Rem-Oil.
     
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    as smokey joe says do not use 3in1. I've cleaned and repaired several old timer's guns - semi-auto .22lr, pump shottys and revolvers that had gummed-up innards due to this crap.
    had to use acetone to cut it.
    my favorite is syn. grease or X1-A spray
     
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    Lucas Gun oil is pretty good, and doesn't burn off too quick. An LEO friend of mine advised me of a mix that his department, and the Indiana Law Enforcement Academy rifle instructors use. It is a 2:1 mix of Mobil 1 20w50 synthetic oil, and Mobil 1 synthetic transmission fluid. Works very well.
     
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