Bowen and Freedom Arms
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Brian Williams
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Links?
Gordon
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Bowen?
Sam1911
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I believe he's talking about this: http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/catalog/freedom_arms_packages.html
Though... while I have enormous respect for Mr. Bowen and his company ... there's no way in the big wide world I'd put that hammer on a SA revolver...
Just my tastes, of course.
Though... while I have enormous respect for Mr. Bowen and his company ... there's no way in the big wide world I'd put that hammer on a SA revolver...
Just my tastes, of course.
Sam1911
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It is listed as an option here: http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/catalog/freedom_arms_options.html
"F500" for $295.
They even call it a "commander style" hammer. Very strange. A bit like an EOTech on a Sharps rifle.
"F500" for $295.
They even call it a "commander style" hammer. Very strange. A bit like an EOTech on a Sharps rifle.
The Lone Haranguer
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That looks wrong. 
But, if you must put such a thing on your revolver, he is the one to do it.
But, if you must put such a thing on your revolver, he is the one to do it.Sam1911
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Indeed! "Love the monocle and mustache, Mona!"
Sam1911
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Ehhh...that's one opinion, but more of a conspiracy theorist's fancy than a documented fact.
But this isn't Art History 101...let's stick to guns.
But this isn't Art History 101...let's stick to guns.
bergmen
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Not sure how one would improve on perfection:
Mine (.454 Casull + .45 Colt cylinder):
Besides, any work done by another outfit completely voids the lifetime warranty that came with mine.
Dan
Mine (.454 Casull + .45 Colt cylinder):
Besides, any work done by another outfit completely voids the lifetime warranty that came with mine.
Dan
tuckerdog1
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Love those grips. Hate that hammer.
Tuckerdog1
Tuckerdog1
tuckerdog1
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Dan,
Beautiful revolver. I never get tired of seeing another Freedom Arms.
Thanks,
Tuckerdog1
Beautiful revolver. I never get tired of seeing another Freedom Arms.
Thanks,
Tuckerdog1
Standing Wolf
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I've never seen one like it. If I were a single action guy, I'd have to think about it, although I'm partial to the looks of the Bisley hammer.
CraigC
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I'm sure it's very practical but then again, so is the original hammer. I reckon I'm just not one that buys into the "lower is better" line of thinking when it comes to single action revolver hammer spurs. Don't like the way that looks at all. Particularly considering that it's on a $4000-$4500 revolver. A $50 drop-in part for a Ruger might be worth a try. A $300 option on a $2200 package offered for a $2000 FA, not so much.
If you have $2000-$2500 worth of work done on a $2000 revolver, you don't "need" a warranty.
I agree that that hammer is silly but I do think that that lanyard ring on the little model 97 is a great idea.
Model 84? I need to check their web site. I though the big one was the Model 83!
Edit: The OP must have mistyped. They is no model 84 mentioned.
I have fat fingers as well.
Model 84? I need to check their web site. I though the big one was the Model 83!
Edit: The OP must have mistyped. They is no model 84 mentioned.
I have fat fingers as well.
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IMO, that hammer makes an otherwise, very attractive as far as Stainless Steel revolvers go, look downright goofy. With a standard, Bisley Style, or even SBH style (or similar) hammer, the revolver would be quite nice looking. With that Froot Loop hammer.... not so much.
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Is Freedom arms about to go out of business over a huge lawsuit?
CraigC
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No.
^^ if so it's about time their customer service is the worst and their products are way over priced for what you get :banghead: ... they remind me of a *don't take affiance my brother is one* a used car salesman ... once you buy one of theirs they don't stand behind their products ... although that is the best place to stand when your talking about firearms
Bowen once wrote me that I'd be better off with an FA, then a Ruger he converted, since FA no matter what he did, he couldn't do better then where FA started.
That said, one of the things I really like is the hammer on the FA, and that isn't it.
I think FA's make a great place to start on a custom revolver.
FA has folks that are great in service, and some not so good, lkke the owner.
Keep in mind, that like most gun folks, Bob Baker and his boys view his guns as his babies, and, anything that you say that in the slightest goes against
what they, or really his dad came up with, well, he's going to try and stomp you
.
On the otherhand, go to Gunblast, and, you'll find that FA revolvers, probably hand picked, are THE most accurate revolver on the market, by a LOT.
I sold a 252 that shot .38" for it's new owner, with the right ammo, at 50 yards. My CZ rifle barely does that off the bench.
Considering custom 1911's that are less accurate go for 3 grand, I think you are going to have a hard time convincing me that FA's are a poor value.
That said, one of the things I really like is the hammer on the FA, and that isn't it.
I think FA's make a great place to start on a custom revolver.
FA has folks that are great in service, and some not so good, lkke the owner.
Keep in mind, that like most gun folks, Bob Baker and his boys view his guns as his babies, and, anything that you say that in the slightest goes against
what they, or really his dad came up with, well, he's going to try and stomp you
.
On the otherhand, go to Gunblast, and, you'll find that FA revolvers, probably hand picked, are THE most accurate revolver on the market, by a LOT.
I sold a 252 that shot .38" for it's new owner, with the right ammo, at 50 yards. My CZ rifle barely does that off the bench.
Considering custom 1911's that are less accurate go for 3 grand, I think you are going to have a hard time convincing me that FA's are a poor value.
I hesitate to buy a FA because of the hammer. I hate it. If someone comes out with a Bisley style hammer for the FA, then we are back on; or even a Ruger SBH or Montado style hammer. In the meantime, Bowen, Harton, Gallagher, Horvath,, Stroh, etc. can make me the gun I want, just the way I choose...
CraigC
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I would say this is the rare exception, rather than the rule and that obviously, there is much more to this story than we're hearing.
Last such anecdote I heard was from a guy who had a FA 97 that egg-shaped chambers. He went on and on and on about how FA produces a POS and that they had screwed him out of his money. Then, from the other end, Bob Baker, we find out that he had used such poorly cast bullets that were so hard and driven so fast, that they had damaged the pistol.
What? How can a cast bullet be too hard and be driven too fast? Unless he cast them of iron... I mean Linotype or heat treated bullets are about as hard as it gets... Oregon Trail puts silver in their blend... unless he used something bad for a gas check, or used lapping compound instead of lube??? I'm confused.
CraigC
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So am I. It was opined that the bullets may have been egg-shaped. Bob said he'd never seen anything like it before or since.
EDIT: I found the discussion, both chamber mouths and bore were egg-shaped. Loads he received from the owner were 20% or more overloaded. He suspected poorly cast bullets, tinning and/or leading led to the damage. Coupled with some arrogance and stupidity. The guy used to post on SingleActions.com, until he was banned.
EDIT: I found the discussion, both chamber mouths and bore were egg-shaped. Loads he received from the owner were 20% or more overloaded. He suspected poorly cast bullets, tinning and/or leading led to the damage. Coupled with some arrogance and stupidity. The guy used to post on SingleActions.com, until he was banned.
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