Brass frame revolvers
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Jackrabbit1957
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Was that before or after he supervised digging the Grand Canyon?
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With a handle like "ClemBert" you can't help but be proud of a fellow Clemson engineering grad like Val Forgett. I seem to recall that after graduation he went straight to forming Navy Arms.
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I just don't get it. Help me out
Nasty Canasta
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No way would I ever buy a brass open top revolver & have always passed on the 1858 Remington’s too-they might be ok but not for me.
hawg
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As long as they're historically correct they make good displays. They're not much fun to shoot unless you just like wimpy loads.
Malachi Leviticus Blue
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If you were referring to John Wayne the well known actor, he was born in 1907 and I suspect it was at least a few years old before he started using 1892s.
So if that fits your definition of "just after the civil war" then I guess your right, but most folks likely consider "just after the civil war" to be a bit earlier than that.
Really, so many discussions about Hollywood I thought everyone new what I was talking about. Generation gap. I think they are called historical incorrect
So you got a movie timmed just after the civil war and they walk around with SSA and 92s now do you ...........
Malachi Leviticus Blue
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Sorry, genuinely not catching what your trying to say.
Something may be getting lost in the translation to English maybe?
Yes Michigan is way out there at times
Malachi Leviticus Blue
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Sorry, you claimed to be confused and I was trying to help with what was obvious to me.
Didn't realize I was being baited.
Carry on.
Good God man. I wanted to know what the grand canyon had to do with John Wayne. Different kind of cat aren't you smarty pants.
Eyrie G. Dogg
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John Wayne (born in a manger) didn't dig the Grand Canyon. That was the Red River he dug, with a Stagecoach just a couple of years after he and Robert E. Lee freed the slaves.
RoyLOak
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For those interested or needing an updated Proof Date Code Chart, here is the latest from the CIP. Pierangelo Pedersoli was kind enough to send me a copy of the National Proof House for Small Arms and Commercial Ammunition 100th Anniversary publication which contains every maker stamp that has gone through the proof house in the past 100 years. A valuable resource for identifying makers of our reproductions over the years.
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vintovka
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I dislike brass frames for other reasons. Folks would bring them in for repairs and then balk at the bill and leave them unclaimed. Really never did recover our labor or parts cost and were tough to sell. Recall Sarco once sold brass framed 51's for like 3/$100. All were not bad looking but required a rubber band to keep loading levers from dropping on first shot and got out of time easily. .
RoyLOak
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For those who may be interested not only in researching replicas, but, more especially, original Confederate revolvers of the Civil War Era, "The Official records of the Union and Confederate Navies in the War of the Rebellion" is available online through various academic libraries. This massive collection of history contains over 30 volumes and the actual letters and testimony of events transpiring during the Civil War. Through my own state's Western Illinois University, this massive collection is cataloged with links to libraries across the country that have digital files of these volumes. I personally am a member of the Internet Archive, where I have downloaded many of these volumes for research. Here is a link to the archive of volumes for those who may be interested.
My last research was on the actual content of the Confederate "brass" revolvers that were made during the war. What follows is an account of the purchase of materials for field guns and the outcome of said purchase in testimony recorded Friday, September 19, 1862. It is known, as previously mentioned above, the "brass" they refer to is "gunmetal".:
Mr. Semmes. If these things had been purchased at a later period,what would have been their probable value?
Lieutenant Kennon. I don't think you would have gotten them for $3,000,000. In the first place, you can not now buy block tin, which is necessary for the manufacture of brass guns, because you use 10 parts of tin to 90 parts of copper, and unless the tin is pure block tin you can not make a gun that will be serviceable.
Mr. Semmes. Did you purchase a large quantity of tin?
Lieutenant Kennon. I engaged and purchased enough to make 36 brass guns. Twelve were ordered and but one made. Leeds & Co. (Leeds & Co. made field guns for the Confederacy) had the order to make them, and though I had the block tin for that purpose they had to give them up. * The Government or the State, or both, bought that block tin afterwards for the making of field-pieces for the service of the State or the Confederate States.
The direct link to the multiple copies of "The Official records of the Union and Confederate Navies in the War of the Rebellion" is https://www.wiu.edu/.../war_ofthe_rebellion/navyRecords.php
My last research was on the actual content of the Confederate "brass" revolvers that were made during the war. What follows is an account of the purchase of materials for field guns and the outcome of said purchase in testimony recorded Friday, September 19, 1862. It is known, as previously mentioned above, the "brass" they refer to is "gunmetal".:
Mr. Semmes. If these things had been purchased at a later period,what would have been their probable value?
Lieutenant Kennon. I don't think you would have gotten them for $3,000,000. In the first place, you can not now buy block tin, which is necessary for the manufacture of brass guns, because you use 10 parts of tin to 90 parts of copper, and unless the tin is pure block tin you can not make a gun that will be serviceable.
Mr. Semmes. Did you purchase a large quantity of tin?
Lieutenant Kennon. I engaged and purchased enough to make 36 brass guns. Twelve were ordered and but one made. Leeds & Co. (Leeds & Co. made field guns for the Confederacy) had the order to make them, and though I had the block tin for that purpose they had to give them up. * The Government or the State, or both, bought that block tin afterwards for the making of field-pieces for the service of the State or the Confederate States.
The direct link to the multiple copies of "The Official records of the Union and Confederate Navies in the War of the Rebellion" is https://www.wiu.edu/.../war_ofthe_rebellion/navyRecords.php
Malachi Leviticus Blue
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Thanks, but I was hoping you were also going to share the "100th Anniversary publication which contains every maker stamp"
Um,with his SSA and 92
hawg
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Filling out my time sheet. Any help is appreciatedSSA? Is that anything like a SAA?
Paul R Zartman
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Wow...cant you guys just let us load our newer brassers to 25 grains.and let us have fun with them...just because your gun cost 50 bucks more doesn't give you the right to tell me how to load mine... I just want to pull the trigger and see smoke and sparks. Just like you
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