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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Orcon, Nov 11, 2020.

  1. Ru4real

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    Have you thought bigger than bullets?

    As a new bullet maker, what trait, exactly, can you beat or match companies like RMR or MBC or Roze?

    As a new ammunition maker, you can beat Remington, Winchester, Federal, etc on quality and customer support probably right out of the gate. Start with one caliber and build a following. I’d suggest 9mm.
     
  2. Bat Rastard

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    Do it without debt. Debt kills everything.
     
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  3. lordpaxman

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    Kudos for venturing in to a new business especially one that accommodates our favorite pastime!!!!!!
    I’m always looking for 9mm heavy, .40 and .45. I use .223 and .243 at a much reduced rate.
    I don’t know if you’re a competition shooter, but that crowd does have some volume associated with it. Your marketing plan should include a significant social media presence. Since I’m in the PROC my contribution would be remote testing only. Best of luck!!!!
     
  4. DanK3Pos

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    I hear you. I'm totally fed up with it, as well. Do damn good work, improve processes, eliminate errors, then receive no recognition for it and only to be told "we want more/better paperwork." Meanwhile, the slack asses get the same pay and barely meet minimum requirements to be employed.

    I know you've already commented on 'pearl clutching,' but another "assault weapon ban" would kill the impetus for .223 and a ban on high capacity magazines would probably shift interest away from 9mm, to .45acp, .45gap, 10mm, .357sig, etc. At least, when selecting equipment, make sure you have the flexibility to change up to different cartridges if demand changes.
     
  5. whughett

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    That’s a real big “IF”. But many of us are old enough to remember, and I suspect many still use, a publication called a catalog and an ordering system callEd writing and mailing. Most major players still publish mail order catalogs. Slow and time consuming but still viable. Not that I’d want to return to that myself.
     
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  6. packetloss

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    How about availability? Have you tried to order any bullets lately? I'm going on 12 weeks waiting on orders from RMR.
     
  7. Havok7416
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    Since you asked, what I like to see in a bullet is consistency and availability. I'm admittedly a short range shooter - even my rifle shooting stays within 100 yards - but consistency issues can lead to problems at the loading bench.

    The particular bullet I would be most interested in would be a spire point(or at least pointy) 220-230gr .308 for subsonic Blackout. Berry's is the most widely available and affordable bullet in this category but they aren't consistently available.
     
  8. ManFromMontana

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    PM'd you. We should talk...
     
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  9. Rule3

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    RIP Brad??

    Wow, I was not aware of this! That is terrible, just looked up the obit.

    Is there a thread on this??

    https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sedaliademocrat/obituary.aspx?pid=197036668
     
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  11. CQB45ACP

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  12. Rule3

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    Beat the big three? Ya sure, what a joke:uhoh:
     
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  13. CRracer712

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    Have you priced liability insurance?
     
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  14. CQB45ACP

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    The good news is it’s not really three, only two. Federal and Remington are both Vista.
     
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  15. Riomouse911

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    I’ve bought handgun and .45/70 bullets from a lot of smaller makers, some are gone and some still kicking; Antelope Valley, Silver State, Rainer, RMR, Shooters Cast, Ibejiheads, ACME, Montana, Laser Cast, Missouri, Brazos, Bayou, Eggleston, Extreme, Berrys... and from biggies like Sierra, Hornady, Nosler.

    My tastes have changed over the years, from simple cast/lubricated lead bullets to plated... now to coated ones. (Shooting a lot indoors, I found the coated bullets cut out the smoke but cost almost what plain lead ones do.)

    I go back and order from the same makers over again because the makers sell what I want, their product performs as expected and they don’t require me to sell a kidney every time I go back to purchase more. That’s all I could ever ask. :)

    Good luck with your quest, once you get up and running let us know and if you’re making bullets I use (.313, .358, .411, .430, .453 and .459) I will be happy to be one of the first to place an order. :thumbup:

    Stay safe.
     
  16. Rule3

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    What about Winchester (Olin) and all the many,many other brands out there (foreign)??
    Multi million dollar diverse Companies that manufacturing billions of rounds of ammo for Govt and consumers with a very. very high rate of efficiency and quality (yes quality) kinda hard to beat them at their game.
     
  17. CQB45ACP

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    I was just focusing on the domestic ones.
     
  18. cardinalorange

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    The things I look at when buying bullets is:
    1) reliability. I need every bullet to be in spec. I don't measure or check consistency of bullets so if they aren't all good straight out of the package it's a pass from. me.
    2) price. I only buy bulk bullets for range fodder, so cheapest wins.
    3) Customer service. Any issues need to be addressed (or at least acknowledged) within 24 hours. ArmorAlly lost my business after they sent me the wrong amount of 9mm once fired cases and then said they couldn't do anything without the shipping label.

    I'd pay a few cents more per if the customer service was amazing (as I do for some RMR projectiles), but you need to make them consistent and cheap to survive.
     
  19. AABEN

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    40 are hard to find as of now I reload and bullets are hard to find 40 45 and even the 380 are out they have sold a lot of 380 in the last 3 years a 88 gr is now where to be found
     
  20. blue32

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    I'll tell you that according to my blog hits, anything 223 is noticeably more popular. I would have figured standard 9mm bullets but I guess .224 bullets would get you more business. I would focus on 55 and 62 gr fmj.
     
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