C&R Question - over-the-counter?

[Rumble]

Okay, so I have my C&R, and besides sending copies to the online retailers, I was curious about its use in over-the-counter transactions. I did a search on it, and didn't find anything that looked obviously addressing this assumption/question.

I assume that, unless the store owner decides he or she doesn't wanna, or there's some policy to the contrary, I can show the C&R and proof of identity and conduct a purchase over-the-counter much the same way I can do it over the 'net: e.g., I pays my money and they hands me the firearm.

I am wondering specifically about some of the larger "sports" retailers that have C&R firearms for sale (like Dunham's)--does anyone have any experience purchasing a firearm from one of those stores using this process? I understand it's not necessarily the way to get the best price--I was more curious if they'd even let you do it, or if they'd bail out.

 

[deadin]

As you said, it's up to the seller, but I have never had a problem buying a C&R eligible firearms "over the counter". In fact, most dealers are glad to do it because it means less paperwork for them. (At least in my State)

 

[Sistema1927]

My favorite gun store has my C&R on file. When purchasing a C&R weapon from them I just tell the clerk that my FFL is in their files, and they do the book entry for the weapon in question. Never a problem.

 

[Rumble]

Cool. Thanks for the quick responses!

 

[zoom6zoom]

Same here. Easier for everyone, they just log it out and you log it in. No background checks or the added cost. I always keep a spare copy folded up in my wallet.

 

[tinygnat219]

The C&R license is both a boon and a bane. Some dealers love them, as it means less paperwork for them, especially at a busy gunshow. Others see you as competition and won't take them, forcing you to do the background check for something you really want. I don't understand these latter types as it's incredibly stupid. I carry 1-2 in a clear plastic sleeve that I keep in my personal notebook at the office, or in my car. It's come in handy for a couple of those "roadside gunstore" purchases. However, it's proven its worth 10X over from the Internet. Just call, give a CC #, and the next day you have a rifle or pistol. Simply amazing!

 

[gezzer]

You supply a copy of your C&R to the dealer on the sale, sign it in front of him showing .Gov picture ID and take possession. When the dealer will not take the C&R let him know you will spread the word to your friends and NO Sales will occur new or C&R. If the dealer is so dense he will not take your FFL DO NOT DEAL with him.

 

[chestnut ridge]

The 01 ffl sellers that will not sell to a C&R ffl seem to have one common
factor. They have been involved in a recent BATFE audit or investigation.
Apparently the BATFE has been "poisoning the well" by scrutiny involving
sales to 03 ffl's. Many of the 01 dealers dislike the 03 ffl's because they
see them as unfair competition. To be fair; there may be some C&R sellers
abusing the intent. This will cause problems for those that follow the rules.

 

[Telperion]

Why would 01 dealers see C&R's as competition? It says very clearly mine, "This license does not authorize the holder to engage in the business of dealing in any firearms".

 

[Trebor]

Why would 01 dealers see C&R's as competition?

Two reasons:

1. If you have a C&R and can get C&R firearms right from the distributer yourself, you aren't as likely to buy from the shop.

2. There are C&R holders who abuse the privelage and resell guns from their "private collection" on a regular basis. Sometimes they get busted, usuallly they do not.

 

[DMK]

There are C&R holders who abuse the privilege and resell guns from their "private collection" on a regular basis. Sometimes they get busted, usuallly they do not.

There are people without C&Rs who resell guns from their "private collection" on a regular basis. Isn't this what the so called "gunshow loophole" is about? Some people are just fickle. It's not abuse of any privilege.

 

[Trebor]

There are people without C&Rs who resell guns from their "private collection" on a regular basis. Isn't this what the so called "gunshow loophole" is about? Some people are just fickle. It's not abuse of any privilege.

Actually, it *is* an abuse when a C&R holder is using his C&R privileges to buy guns for resale. Doing some horse trading or pruning your collection is one thing. "Engaging in the business" while using a C&R for your acquisitions is something else entirely.