CA: Your Walther P22 is now an Assault Weapon

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Drjones

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I just recieved this email from a dealer's email list;


I thought some of you might be interested in this - I just got off the phone with the California Department of Justice. I was calling to ask when the Walther P22s (these are compact, relatively inexpensive .22 pistols) would go back on the California approved list. They passed safety testing and were on the list for a year or so, and many were sold, but then someone at the DOJ realized that the design includes some treads on the barrel (I think they were always this way – but no one noticed before). Based on this discovery, they were immediately re-classified as “assault weapons†and banned from sale. This left many dealers stuck with inventory they can’t sell. And dealers like me, who don’t carry much inventory, suddenly unable to order or sell them. I was just warned not to even do private party transfers of these guns (which is still allowed for most non-approved models – but not for these “assault weaponsâ€).



Essentially, the people who bought these little .22s in good faith within the past year or so are now in the possession of unregistered (and therefore illegal) “assault weapons.†Under the law, they might as well have an unregistered AR15 or AK-47. And there’s really nothing they can do about it (the registration deadline passed in 2000, you can’t sell or give them to anyone in CA, you can’t sell them out of state without going through a dealer - I guess you might find a dealer licensed to deal in assault weapons who would take it – but somehow I suspect most won’t want to deal with a little $250 .22 pistol “assault weaponâ€). It’s an interesting situation.



Of course, I don’t expect the DOJ to arrest people who bought these in good faith (the DOJ people I’ve spoken with seem to be level-headed and reasonable), and I’m told by both Walther and the DOJ that they are working on a solution (gluing something over the threads sounds probable), but the DOJ rep didn’t sound like there is any ETA for resolving this. At first he said it was a Walther “manufacturing glitch†– but I think it’s pretty obviously a problem with California law (and/or the DOJ’s interpretation thereof). At any rate, don’t try to buy or sell one of these P22 “Assault Weapons†before they work this out. It’s too bad, because they are neat little pistols (I was calling because I’d like to get one for myself). This retro-active banning of a previously approved firearm reminds me of the SKS fiasco a few years ago.
 
This was posted a couple of months ago. It was BS then and it's BS now. My Walther P22 does not have a threaded barrel
 
Hmm...if that's true it must be a very recent turn of events. The last time I popped in to Turner's (a very common occurance) they had them for sale, and they were all over the place at the last Crossroads show in Costa Mesa.
 
I don't know about the California law, but IIRC the Walther P22 model with 3.5" barrel is not threaded, but the model with 5" barrel and removable compensator is threaded. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Neither of the barrels come threaded. You have to buy a seperate thread adapter, which I believe replaces a barrel-bushing that's pinned in place.
 
Of course, I don’t expect the DOJ to arrest people who bought these in good faith

Now there's a mistake.

Plenty of people bought AR-15s in 'good faith' many years ago. What if they never even heard SB23 when it came about? Yep, they're still felons (though there is an OPTIONAL reduction to 'just' a misdomenor if the gun was lawfully possessed prior to 1/1/2000.)

How nice of them...

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
I have a P22 with the shorter barrel and it came standard with a threaded barrel..... it also came with a Gemtech Outback attached :D ( Actually I am still waiting on the paperwork to return from the ATF before I can pick it up!)

As a born and raised SoCal Californian (Huntington Beach) I feel your pain. I got so fed up with the insane knife/gun laws and unreasonable living expense that I moved myself and my family from HB to Atlanta, GA. All the gun related things which I always thought I would never have in CA have now come to fruition here. I have a CCW, purchased my first Suppressor and plan to purchase my first Class 3 firearm sometime this year. Sure, I miss the sand, surf and babes. But every state has something special to offer. California's laws are just plain unreasonable.

Mac
 
Yeah, I hear ya. Moving is not only a pain in the A*s but is also VERY EXPENSIVE. In my case it wasn't the case since my move was work related and they paid for my relocation. But all things being equal Georgia is much less expensive than California.

Mac
 
:confused:

That little notch thingie?

Perhaps you could attach a supressor with a set screw (not that you couldn't on a normal barrel), or you could just shoot Colibri's single shot :rolleyes:

:sigh:
 
quote: or you could just shoot Colibri's single shot

I tried this. Not exactly what one would call silent. Somewhat louder than a pellet gun. A bit like a firecracker.

The guy at the gun store said I couldn't even hold someone else's P22. Something about a temporary transfer. I told him that was ubsurd since I also own one. Didn't matter. This place is absolutely insane.
 
Couldn't you permanently attach that slotted-nut thing to the threaded portion of the barrel using silver-solder or something?? Or is it critical to the function/take-down of a pistol to be-able to remove the slotted nut from then end of the barrel.

I believe that would acceptable method, since silver-solder is used to permanently attach threaded muzzle-brakes to semi-auto rifles to keep them from becoming an evil feature.

It is interesting that for rifles, the CA assault weapon "features" list applies only to centerfire rifles, where as for pistols, it applies to all semi-automartic pistols. Does anyone make a carbine conversion kit for the P22?

$.02 from a new guy.

drc
 
I asked the ame guy at same shop I mentioned above if tack-welding the little nut would make them ok. He said it didn't matter as the gun is listed by name as an AW.

If Walther started making a "P22A" without the threaded barrel feature it could probvably be sold in PRK. As long as the offending feature is removed and the name is changed.
 
He is full of crap. The P22 is not listed as an assault weapon. It is considered an assault weapon because of the threaded barrel.
 
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