Capacity Home Defense Shotgun

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  1. JCooperfan1911

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    What capacity do you all think is appropriate for a house gun? I have an 870 Police Magnum with a +1 extension bringing total capacity to 5+1. I also have a sidesaddle with 6 on the side and practice reloading the chamber one at a time and also topping off the tube. I feel pretty good with it but don't know if 5 in the fully loaded tube is considered enough rounds.
     
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    One should be enough, 5 should be plenty unless you have reason to believe a whole gang is going to invade your home.
     
  3. Fyrstyk

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    I have a double 12 gauge with a stock sleeve to hold 4 additional shells. Hopefully it is more than enough fire power for my wife and I.
     
  4. Armored farmer

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    20170520_105805.jpg Mine is a stock 870 4+1, ammo sleeve holds 5 more.
    I cant imagine needing more.
     
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  5. uzimon

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    My m4 i can ghost load bringing it to 9. Very appropriate
     
  6. Kevin Keith

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    My highest capacity HD/SD shootgun is 7+1. I'm always comfortable with "just one more" and subscribe to "the more the merrier". I just hope we don't shoot up the TV sets if we ever have to use them in the house. :)
     
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    I’ve got a Winchester 1300, short barrel. I believe it’s 8 +1, and a side saddle with 6. Pistol grip.

    Can’t really come up with a better HD/Hacienda setup than a short 12 gauge, IMO.
     
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    I think the 5+1 capacity of my Maverick 88 plus the 5 I have in a shell holder on the butt stock, should be more than enough to handle things!
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  9. RCB

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    6+1, but I never use the +1. I have other firearms in service at home if 6 12ga shells are enough to handle a situation. I pray it won't come to that, but just in case.
     
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  10. Fine Figure of a Man

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    No more than 3. Any more than that would be unsportsmanlike and could lead to the decline of home invasions.
    Non-toxic ammo only, you don't want to contaminate your own home with lead.
     
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    6+1+1 on my Beretta 1201FP is plenty for me. My handgun is primary any way since it is right next to my pillow.
     
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  12. entropy

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    C'mon, man, it's two rounds fired from the veranda. That's enough to scare off any intruders. :rofl:

    I have 5 in my Ithaca 37. If that doesn't cover it, tactical retreat to the boudior for the AR and/or 1911.
     
  13. Scribner

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    Maybe you want to read the posts in the fighting shotgun section of this forum. This is by people who had to carry & shoot as needed. As I read it, the consensus appears to me that it is better to be a really good shot than to carry too much crap.
     
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    If the 5 or more rounds in a pump or auto don't seem like enough, why not switch to a rifle with a 20 or 30 round (or more) mag? Personally, I would rather use something like one of those Ruger 9mm carbines anyway. I also think that a good light on a HD gun is as important as the gun it is mounted to- and mounting a good light on a shotgun can be both difficult and expensive.
     
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    Our readers might find this useful:
    https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/dispelling-myths-12ga-shotgun/
    Mr. Bolke is quite the expert.

    As I always do, I suggest that focusing on the equipment is fine and dandy but to effectively use the gun, a modicum of training is suggested. As he says:

    Now as far as capacity - Yep, you are limited and that leads to the ever popular carbine vs. shotgun debate. Reloading a shotgun is slow even if practiced. If one could, find a competition where you can run both against multiple targets and see you reload times, times between targets, maneuvering, etc.

    If you haven't really done that, I defer to Mr. Bolke's opinion:

    Did a Tom Givens and a Steve Moses shotgun class and ran it in some IDPA like matches. My personal opinion is that the home long gun for first pick up is a carbine. Got the shotgun also in case of a last ditch stand against some monster.


    From another great trainer, John Holschen (who squished my head in H2H):
     
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    Mine all carry 8+1, lights and red dots. One Mossy 590 Mariner and two Benny M1 Super 90's
     
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    My 870 is 6 rounds of #1 buck in the tube( 4+2 extension), with 6 rounds (3 segmenting slug & 3 #1 buck) in a sidesaddle.

    For me, this is quite an adequate HD shotgun load.

    Stay safe.
     
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    A shotgun in my opinion is a viable HD weapon, but with much more limited usefulness than most people think. I'm content with the 4+1 of my 870. I've tried extended mag tubes and other shotguns with tubes giving me 8-9 shots total, but they balance and handle horribly.

    INSIDE my home I'll take a handgun 10 times out of 10. There is no place inside my home where a shot longer than 15' is possible and most of the time ranges would likely be closer to 5'. I prefer the ability to keep one hand free for other things and have a gun harder for an intruder to get their hands on.

    If I were to use a long gun indoors a PCC or shorter barreled AR or similar is just as useful. You get 15-30 rounds of ammo in a weapon with significantly less recoil than any shotgun. And at those ranges a shotgun doesn't have a pattern big enough to matter.

    IMO where a shotgun is most useful is OUTDOORS when shots will be in the 10-30 yard range. Particularly if trying to hit moving targets. Now you have a situation where the pattern of multiple projectiles becomes an advantage, but I just don't see that sort of thing happening often in a HD situation. For LE there may be more chances. At ranges inside of 10 yards a rifle or carbine is just as good. Beyond 30 yards and a rifle is the clear winner.
     
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  19. Anchorite

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    Great points. Hadn’t really thought deeply about it - thanks for the food for thought.
     
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    Current HD ex-corrections department 870 is basic 4 shot tube loaded with Federal 2 3/4" 000 Buck.
     
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    You will never know if it is enough till the fight is over and you won or lost.
     
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    I'm in the 5+1 boat. If I need more than that, well I always have my commander size 1911 strapped on me or nearby. So unless my battle strategy includes missing a lot or warning shots out the window or, perhaps, into the ceiling (none of these is recommended), I think I'm pretty much covered. Besides, I have livelier things in the safe other than a shotgun and I know the house and the intruder probably doesn't.
     
  23. Armored farmer

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    I took a couple of pics of my clamp-on sights.
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    Ignore the grandkids crazy bed.
     
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    I was wondering.......
     
  25. stanley_white

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    What is your scenario?

    What type of crime do you face?

    Would your lifestyle attract an opportunistic average thief or an experienced home invasion crew?

    How many square feet / acres do you have?

    How many people besides you do you have to defend?

    Do you plan to hunker down and wait for law enforcement to arrive or clear your home?

    -Stan
     
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