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Carry at work or not?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by TheOtherOne, Jan 1, 2003.

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  1. TheOtherOne

    TheOtherOne Member

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    Where I work it is a violation of company policy to have a weapon at work and they will fire you for it if they found out.... but, while public and private places can apply pretty much whatever restrictions they want on their property, it's still not against state law and is not something you could be arrested, prosecuted or lose your CCW for.

    Would you carry or not?
     
  2. PATH

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    School no! Gun store YES!!!
     
  3. Redlg155

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    Company policy, technically no.

    If the policy applies to the general public as well, such as the posting of "NO WEAPONS OR CONCEALED CARRY FIREARMS" signs then you could be in violation of your states concealed carry laws.

    I can't carry at my primary job at a State Correctional Facility.

    That is when self defense tactics and secondary weapons come into play should trouble arise. It's amazing how effective a good quality ink pen can be.

    Good Shooting
    RED
     
  4. TheOtherOne

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    It's not illegal where I am. I'm sure of that. The only thing you would have to worry about is getting fired.

    http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPFAQ/FAQPrivate.html

    What about private businesses? Can they post signs prohibiting someone from carrying a gun into their business, even though the person has a concealed firearms permit?

    Naturally, private property owners may apply whatever restrictions they want. Whether or not these restrictions violate one's constitutional rights is for the civil courts to decide. But the only statutory restrictions on a permit holder are secured areas such as airports and federal buildings


    In fact, in Utah, not even a public place posting a sign will get you in legal trouble if you still carry their.
     
  5. MountainPeak

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    I work at Los Alamos National Labs. Unless you are on the security force you better not carry at work!
     
  6. Neal Bloom

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    Can't carry where I work. Can't even have a gun in your car. Price to pay for working at a university.
     
  7. sixgun_symphony

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    If the jobsite is dangerous and the company does not take adequate defensive measures, then I would discreetly carry a small pistol.

    Walther PPK is small and flat for easy concealment. The S&W Airlight snubbie revolvers are good too.
     
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    Against Federal law for me to carry at work (on Federal property).
     
  9. telewinz

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    In Ohio although we do not have CCW yet, signs are already up at some stores refusing permission for people carry firearms or any weapon into the store.
     
  10. tomkatz

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    I'm a public school security guard so the answer is no, unfortunately. Most of my co workers think we should be able to, given what has happened at several schools around the country....tom
     
  11. Drizzt

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    I stopped carrying at work a little while ago. My boss pulled me into a conference room and told me that someone had put in (another) complaint aboutsomething on my desk. "oh, my screen saver."

    "No, not that."

    "The cartoon hanging on my wall?"

    "No, not that."

    "The blue man target with the holes?"

    "I didn't even know about that one, I'll make a note of it....."

    "Then what was anyone complaining about?"

    "Your handgun certification certificate. Someone said they felt threatened by it."

    "It's a freaking piece of paper!"

    "I know, and its not like you're carrying a gun on you or anything, but I need you to take it down just to keep peace around here."

    "No, I certainly wouldn't be carrying. Nope, not me. Wouldn't even be thinking about it. No sirree, not me."

    "I get the picture, now go away...."
     
  12. Kevinch

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    Our corporate policy is no guns.

    My particular facility management is gun friendly.

    I works with some people who are not gun friendly, so I don't carry. If spotted, they could chase it up to corporate putting my management in a tough situation, and possibly cost me my job.

    So - I usually take my "car" gun with me to & from work, leaving it locked in my vehicle (which is in our private lot & in full view of the front office) while I'm working.
     
  13. RikWriter

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    Back when I worked for someone else, I never even ASKED what the company policy was...I simply carried a bit more deeply than I usually did. They can't pay you enough money to bring you back to life.
     
  14. DadOfThree

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    Our company handbook says that we are not allowed to carry "unauthorized guns" on company property. Since I have a CCW permit, I believe the state has authorized me to carry and the company has not said I can't, so I do. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I work 3rd shift by myself and no one will ever know I carry unless I have to defend my life. In that case I'm not real worried about what the rules say. Fired is better than dead. I don't think I would have a problem with the owner anyway as long as I am discreet. It's not uncommon for guys to be showing each other their new "toys" out in the parking lot during the day shift.
     
  15. Seeker

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    I just started a job where I work for a contracting company and am contracted to the State DOT. DOT policy says No Weapons in DOT Facilities (does this include parking lots?), also no weapons in personal vcehicles if personal vehicles are used for DOT business. Policy goes on to say that if DOT employee is in a situation where a weapon would be needed to 'Talk your way out of it' (will get exact verbage). btw at least one other person in the workgroup (of 6 persons) has a CHL and at least 2/3 have some experience with firearms.

    Not thrilled by this policy, but am very happy to be employed! Still trying to find an entry-level job as an insurance adjuster.
     
  16. Tim Currie

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    No not usually. Am an assist. manager at Walgreen's. I wouldnt want to carry it on me the whole time, I am way too active. Wouldn't mind having it there with me locked in the safe, and have a couple times when i was the only one there with access to it, but usually am not the only one with access to the safe.

    There is no mention of guns or weapons in company policy (I was surprised) and I havent yet talked about it to my manager (who is pro-gun).
     
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    As a previous poster stated, have a car gun locked in the glove box. Not sure what the company policy is but I am comfortable with this arrangement.
     
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    Company policy prohibits carrying while at work. They have a don't ask, don't tell policy for the parking lots.

    Regardless, it is impracticable to carry while working. Given the physical requirements of the job including carrying tools and equipment, a firearm would be a pain in the butt. Also commonly work in close proximity to exposed cables/busses operating at 4160 volts, making it unsafe (like working with high voltage without a gun could be considered safe :rolleyes: ).
     
  20. Ted Bell

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    My boss calls me the office's "first line of defense" -- he's the second :D
     
  21. ball3006

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    Can't carry at work......

    will get fired immediately. They will fire you if one is found in your car too. I work for a big company that takes the stand that I will fire you and if you don't like it, sue me......so no carry....chris3
     
  22. Low Budget Shooter

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    Dear Friends,

    Since this is my first post here since the (I still can't believe it) closing of TFL, I'll start by thanking Oleg and others for the work of getting this forum up.

    Now, to the point, I encountered this question a couple of years ago, but on another issue, then also recently on yet another. It basically boils down to this:

    Is your belief a CONVICTION, or just an idea?

    Case One: A high school science teacher believed firmly that all evidence points to the universe being created by some intelligent being, i.e. a God or god. He was prohibited from discussions of this in class, because the school policy was to teach that evolution by chance explains the origin of the universe. Is his belief in creation a CONVICTION, which he must embrace even if it cost his his job, or is it just an idea, that he will entertain and support only if it is painless?

    Case Two: I have never believed it was right for our country to have public assistance, at least not to the degree we have it today. And I do not believe we should accept it even if we qualify. But a few months ago I changed jobs, and could not keep my diabetic daughter (8 years old) on health insurance. She did qualify, however, for a state-funded health insurance program. So I had to decide whether my opposition to public assistance was a CONVICTION, or just an idea that I would entertain and support only is it were painless.

    Current Topic: It seems the general concensus here is that if our employers prohibit carry on the job, and if we might lose our jobs over it, then naturally we would leave our pistols at home. So does that mean that the right expressed in the 2nd Ammendment, or any of the other human rights, are only ideas we entertain when supporting them is painless. Aren't we proving that we have no CONVICTIONS regarding human rights, because far short of fighting and dying for them, we won't even risk losing our jobs for the sake of them.

    I am struggling with this myself, so I am certainly not calling anyone a coward, but I am getting very uncomfortable with my own lack of backbone on some things, and this is one of them.

    What do y'all think?

    LBS

    Happy New Year!
     
  23. Ron L

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    Well, it is against company policy, but then again, if it's really concealed, nobody would know about it unless it were truly needed, then they may be glad it was in the building.

    Redlg155,
    You got that right. That's why I always carry a stainless Parker Jotter or a Rotring with a steel barrel.
     
  24. Viking6

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    OUCH!!! and OUCH again! I will dodge the question because I don't think of it in those terms. My gun is in my car because I don't think I can bring it in my office. I haven't asked because I don't want to raise the issue. I enjoy my job and wouldn't want to lose it, nor would my wife and kids, dogs and cat. But there's lots of places I don't take a gun because of the law.
     
  25. Average Guy

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    Two jobs ago, the employee manual stated specifically that although the company understood that some people are authorized to carry concealed weapons, it was against company policy. (And this was in California--so I wonder where they stole the manual from.) On my last job and on my current one, there's no mention of weapons in the manuals. Only "harassment." I'm not CCW'd yet, but when I am, I figure if I keep it in my satchel (there's the very distant possibility of search) and don't talk about it, then it won't be an issue.
     
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