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Member
Such a rush to judgement. There is another possibility, which is since the issue is somewhat undefined, the NRA chooses not to endorse an interpretation that may open it up to liability and criticism.
rom legal at NRA HQ. They said the restriction would be waived and carry was ok. They said it is private property and that the owner could restrict but they agreed not to. I thought Houston owned the center?????
CT
The new facility, which is owned and operated by the City of Houston, was completed “on time and under budget†with a price tag of $104.9 million. Construction required 30 months with more than 1,200 workers on site.
I called the number posted at The High Road, and spoke with Bob who passed
me onto a young woman, and I have forgotten her name, with NRA/ILA regarding
the E-mail that GoldenSaber received.
I thanked her for getting this out, but have a problem with the word
NEGOTIATE, as I think the NRA had nothing to negotiate. Texas Law,
specifically SB501, which the TSRA/NRA/and the membership helped pass in the
2003 legislative session, prohibits the exact kind of crap the City of
Houston is trying to pull at the convention center. I told her that a
number of members had been complaining about the NRA Convention and no
concealed carry at the convention, and, I had called on March 18th to
express my displeasure with the NRA regarding this- quite forcefully.
Further, I told her I had intended to carry, even though I was told
emphatically the last time I called that I could not and that I must leave
it in my car. I again told her that I had intended to carry, just like
Jerry Patterson, and many others.
The young woman wanted to know if I was upset with the word negotiate and I
again said I was, and she asked me that if the NRA lawyers had negotiated
the carrying the concealed at the convention, what was the problem, as that
is negotiation. I had to explain again that the NRA had NOTHING to and had
done NOTHING for us as there is NOTHING to NEGOTIATE as Texas state law
prohibited the exact practice that the city of Houston was pulling- just
like the alert from last week concerning the city of Hampton, Virginia which
the VCDL and the NRA was fighting- the Dillon State issue and the city of
Hampton refusing to repeal it ordinances about carry at Bay Days.
This stopped in her tracks and she wanted to know what I wanted and I told
her that the NRA should have said: "Thanks to our great membership, which
pointed out the NRA/ILA was wrong, we have told the city of Houston that it
cannot prohibit us from allowing concealed carry." Further, I told her that
saving face was one thing, but admitting when you are wrong got you a lot
further in my book than just saving face. She said that there was nothing
she could do for me, and I told her that she could pass my complaint along,
and she said she would and I told her to have a nice day.
Denny Church
"No, my friend, the way to have good and safe government, is not to trust it
all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one
exactly the functions he is competent to. Let the national government be
entrusted with the defence of the nation, and its foreign and federal
relations; the State governments with the civil rights, laws, police, and
administration of what concerns the State generally; the counties with the
local concerns of the counties, and each ward direct the interests within
itself. It is by dividing and subdividing these republics from the great
national one down through all its subordinations, until it ends in the
administration of every man's farm by himself; by placing under every one
what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best. What
has destroyed liberty and the rights of man in every government which has
ever existed under the sun?"
-- Thomas Jefferson, to Joseph Cabell, 1816
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch4s34.html
Mr. ******l,
Thank you for spotting the error on our web site regarding handguns. We
modified our rules regarding handguns when the law you cite became
effective. Unfortunately, those that maintain our web site inserted the old
version of our rules and regulations. The provision which we include in our
standard rules and regulations for those using the convention center is as
follows:
18. CONCEALED HANDGUNS.
Possession of firearms is forbidden in the Facility with the exception of
the following: (i) licensed peace officers and licensed honorably retired
peace officers and (ii) exhibitors and patrons during duly licensed gun
shows and (iii) individuals licensed by the State of Texas to carry
concealed handguns.
We will undertake to correct our web information ASAP. Please feel free to
contact me if you have questions.
Stephen W. Lewis, Deputy Director
Convention & Entertainment Facilities Department
1001 Avenida de las Americas
Houston, Texas 77010
Phone: 713-853-8888
Fax: 713-853-8091
Cell: 713-516-2581
Take a virtual tour of the George R. Brown - Click the link below!
http://www.emarketing360.com/CC/TX/Houston/GRB/index.html
I personally took on the city of Ft Worth Attorney about this at the Ft Worth Will Rogers center, which is city owned. I went there and saw the 30.06 signs, went to the city offices and met with the city attorney. The signs were gone the next day.