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Spats McGee said:
I'd been shooting for ~25 years before anyone told me that the two were not synonymous. . . .
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That's because the were used synonymously up until about 5 yrs after the internet gun forums were invented.

The arguing over which gun Crocket and Tubbs used had just about resolved itself and the forums needed another topic.


Engine vs motor - Even the car forums don't nit-pick this
Gas vs fuel - Even the NHRA fan forums don't nit-pick this
Mag vs clip - Cant we all just get along?
 
Guys, I started the thread from my curiosity about it not to start a debate. That is why I went to the Marlin site. One I 'm interested in this rifle... secondly I was wondering if they had something different going on. I purchased an aid for my wife to load her 380 because the magazine was hard for her. She also has a hard time with my 1911. I know my daughter when younger both had a time with magazines also. When I saw the web page called it a Clip Magazine" I had NEVER heard those together like that... I posted asking if I had missed something. Maybe someone had found a way to incorporate the two to make it easier. Clips are easy to fill many mags are not, especially for young shooters. I asked if I had missed something which often I do. OR maybe it's ok now to use either. Many of you think it is many think it isn't. I just didn't think a maker would.
 
I agree with Chez and Art, the terms clip was used in the Army. Not magazine. It is only on gun boards that snobs make a big deal of it. Listen, if you can't follow the vernacular language, please shut up about it. We should all be smart enough to know that clips generally means the same as magazines. What about belt fed ammo. The box the belt came in is the magazine, not the feed machanism. The magazine can refer to the place ammunition is stored, not a rifle part, so just shut the blank up about it already.
 
cheygriz said:
Damn, I hate language NAZIs!:fire:

Yes, it is technically incorrect to call a magazine a clip. It is also incorrect to call your automobile a "car." (cars run on tracks.) It is incorrect to call your weapon a "gun." (guns have wheels on them.)

Aren't there more important issues out there than dissing people who use an incorrect term when everybody knows darn well what they mean?

When I was a child in the 1950s, everyone, even police and soldiers called magazines "clips."

It didn't become an "issue" until "Goofy Jeffie" started whining about i in the gun rags.:rolleyes:
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I suppose it's ok if they call your pistol an "Assault Weapon", your revolver a "Weapon of Mass Destruction" and a barrel shroud "a shoulder thing that goes up".

Asking a question isn't the same as "dissing" someone. No, not everyone knows what you darn well mean when you use the wrong term, however popular it may be to do so. In my professional field as a technician, correct terminology is important. When I ask for a dohickey expecting to get a thingamabob, I've got no gripe when I get a dohickey instead. When we're out there at night in the freezing rain, trying to get an aircraft off the ground, we don't have time to translate dohickey into thingamabob, especially when somebody starts using dohickey and thingamabob interchangeably, furthering the confusion. If you don't want to get pulled over by the "Language Nazis", stop confusing your terminology
 
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Firefight, 1967, in a foxhole, and I yell 'Quick, throw me a magazine!!!!!

And I get hit up side the head with a tattered 1967 Playboy magazine with damp pages.
(Some guy thought I needed TP!)

No!!!! Throw me a clip!!
And I get hit up side the head with a 10-round stripper clip of ammo for my 20-round magazine that is still empty.
But I don't have a duckbill to use the stripper-clip!

So my magazine is still empty, until I can strip the rounds out of the clip and stuff them in my magazine.

( But, I have a damp & musty smelling Playboy now, if I live long enough to look at it!!) Woohoo!

See, it just don't matter what you call it.
Your still gonna get the wrong thing from somebody when you needed it the most!!

rc
 
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rcmodel said:
Firefight, 1967, in a foxhole, and I yell 'Quick, throw me a magazine!!!!!

And I get hit up side the head with a tattered 1967 Playboy magazine with damp pages
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That's just the guys payin' you back for being stingy with your mom's cookies from home:evil:
 
We always stored our 5 inch ammo in a magazine on board ship, and you could even walk around in it. Imagine that all this time and it was really a clip. Learn some thing new every day on the High Road.
Paint, chain & line was in a locker
 
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Well, if you were small enough, you could walk around in an M-16 magazine I guess.

But you couldn't walk around in a 5.56 clip.
( Unless you got really really small.)

rc
 
O.K., so, I gots to gets me some of that then!

I don't think the Army ever issued any relative bearing grease that I remember.

Did you Navy guys smoke it, or snort it to get small??

rc
 
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Frank Ettin said:
We can use language imprecisely to communicate in vague generalities which can be understood (or misunderstood) in various ways, in various contexts, differently by different people.

Or we can use language precisely to perhaps more accurately communicate more complex thoughts in ways better calculated to be more clearly understood.
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Bingo. I work at a gun shop, and most of the time when people say "clip" I know what they mean; I never bother to correct them and I just assume they're talking about a magazine. But not always.

Sometimes it's not clear what they mean. For example: This one guy asked for a clip for his SKS. If he was using the correct technical term, that would mean he was looking for stripper clips since the SKS typically uses those to fill its internal magazine. But it turned out he had an SKS that had a Tapco conversion stock that accepted removable magazines. And since he didn't know the difference between a magazine and a clip, it took me quite a while to figure out which one he needed. This has actually happened to me several times regarding the SKS.

Also, the 5.56 ammo we were issued in the Marine Corps came on 10-round stripper clips that were used to quickly load our 30-round magazines. So correct terminology was very important and was heavily ingrained into every recruit; in a firefight you don't want someone asking for a clip and receiving a stripper clip when it turns out they actually need a magazine.
 
rcmodel said:
O.K., so, I gots to gets me some of that then!

I don't think the Army ever issued any relative bearing grease that I remember.

Did you Navy guys smoke it, or snort it to get small??

rc
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Nah, we had boxes of grid squares.
 
If I do have occasion to correct somebody who's not a gun board afficianado, I definitely will do it gently, with a smile. No benefit in talking down to people.

I think it started in England, when rifles first were made which self-contained more than one round and were called "magazine rifles". (Read that somewhere; I ain't that old.)

So, a Mauser or a Springfield is a magazine rifle which can be loaded from a stripper clip. I've seen the term "clip-fed"--regardless of the accuracy of its use. (Applicable for the Garand, of course.)

Krags and lever guns are magazine rifles, but with them a stripper clip doesn't do much for you. :D

Then came the modern world of detachable magazines for such as the 1911 Colt pistol and then the M1 Carbine.

Enough history for a Saturday morning.
 
Well, you have your magazines over here, your clips over there, then you have the unique Remington combination magazine clip...

Also important to note that it is "precision matched", to what I don't know, where others may simply be precision machined.

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