close range coyotes with 9mm handgun?

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All yotes need to be put down! I would either use a 9mm or just run him over with the mower:) They make a mess at lots of family farms around where I grew up and I have nothin nice to say except the only good yote is a dead yote!
 
There have been several attacks by coyotes on humans in the Denver North Metro area in the last couple of years. One of our neighbors was recently stalked by a pack of three within a half mile of our home (someone else recognized the situation and helped discourage them).

I recently started the paperwork for a carry permit because I take a four mile walk by the open space every day. Winter is coming on, and most of the attacks are in the winter.

I will probably be carrying a Sig P238. If a 380 is good enough for the governor of Texas, it should work for me (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/28/texas-governor-shoots-kills-coyote-threatened-dog/).
 
Some times when someone says something as stupid as our PETA guy and they own weapons, that is scary. Maybe they should not be allowed to own weapons. hehe

So where are the moderators to lock this thread down and issue warnings and such when folks violate the rules, yet other threads are locked down at the hint of LOW ROAD conduct...

I've been converted. I think that EVERY LIVING COYOTE should first be captured and tortured for daring to be a coyote. Then slowly lowered into a meat grinder so that it feels all the pain and suffering due to the coyote species. And just before it dies, it needs to be beaten with sticks and have it's eyes plucked out with dull spoons and then burned alive until it slowly dies.

Oh and then when the snakes, rabbits, rats, and all other food chain stuff that coyotes eat start bothering us, then we need to shoot all of them too!

Blood thirstly ignorant sport killers give guns, the 2A and gun enthusiasts a bad name. Shooting for the joy of shooting is NOT self defense, it is NOT preservation of your XYZ... and it's not hunting in the sense that you intend to use what you kill... it is just plain ignorant. It is to hunting what mindless consumerism is to consumerism. Sport killing like this is the reason that animals have become extinct.

So called "hunters" will find any justifiable reason to go shoot something living because it dared cross their path. It's cowardly and lowly. Yep there I said it. Ban me if you can't hear an opposing view.

Psuedo "hunters" will effortlessly shoot and kill all the groundhogs and prairie dogs and snakes, so then the coyotes will not have a food source. Then they'll complain and shoot all the coyotes. Then they wonder why there are so many rodents, prarie dogs, etc. so they'll go out shooting them.... it's an absurd and frankly disturbing cycle and there's a mental defect where a person takes pleasure in killing for the sake of killing.

As far as coyotes being dangerous, I call BS. I've camped all over the country, including many many times in the Rocky Mountians over a span of years. I've hiked hundreds, probably thousands of miles. I've had few encounters with 'yotes, and all positive. Never once felt threatened. Never once "stalked." Was I armed and ready to defend myself if attacked. Of course. And I would have because that is legitimate self defense. But to proactively just go shooting is just not right and I think people who do that need psychiatric help.
 
I dont think most of us live to kill Coyotes.There has been a big change in the small game numbers where coyotes have moved in and wiped out alot of the rabbits and other that cant outrun them.There is only people to control the coyote population where I live and I dont think we have to worry about him leaving anytime soon.People should not have a hard time understanding that.
 
I reckon a few of ya'll have never owned livestock or or managed a ranch or farm. They're the predator that doesn't get killed, atleast around these parts. They carry mange and rabies and try to kill the young calves being born. Most of our calves are only a week and a half old here.
 
But to proactively just go shooting is just not right and I think people who do that need psychiatric help.

You must understand that in some cases it is the only practical thing to do in order to protect ones live stock and therefore livelihood. You must acknowledge the difference between pointless rambo like hunting sprees and a man protecting his livestock and/or pets.
 
I've met plenty of 'city boys' who like to go out to the praries with their scoped AR15 and bag a dozen yotes in an afternoon. These same cowards also go blast 40 prarie dogs, rabbits or anything else that dares take a breath...
 
Sport killing like this is the reason that animals have become extinct.

Yep. Ive been saying for years that the extinction of dinosaurs was caused by "sport kiling" (sans guns of course).

I figure in a couple more years there wont be any rabbits left either.
 
One could argue that white man just protected its livestock and crop against native americans and we all know how that ended :(
 
my wife and i had an up close personel event the other night........... weapon was a 1999 sable at 60 miles per hour..... the thing ran right out in front of us........ :eek:
 
LGDs

Are more effective at taking care of predators than a human with a rifle. LGDs livestock guardian dogs.

I raise lambs here in VA and have a small flock of about 450 ewes, rams and wethers. I do the humanely raised organic thing to appeal to DC area and NYC chefs and up scale shopper. My lamb chops are equal in quality to the top of the nine grades of prime beef retail for over $20 a lb.

I have more problems with loose neighborhood dogs going after my stock than I do with coyotes. Neighborhood dogs kill for fun. Coyotes kill to eat. I take a few losses to coyotes but haven't suffered any this year. My Tatras killed a mountain lion back in the Spring. VA game folks denied for decades their were any mountain lions here and they still do publicly. There are others out there from Winchester to Roanoke. Bears are also a problem but the boys and girls send bears to easier pickings.

If I catch your dog on my property I shoot and if it has a tag with your address or phone # I will return your dog to you and string it up on your mailbox so your kids will see it. I can and have collected damages in the past when neighborhood dogs have gotten to my stock. I haven't had any losses in 18mos because of my LGDs. Your dogs shouldn't run free off your property. If they do oh well.

Coyotes arent as dumb as Wiley E. They will use a female in heat to lure the herding dog away and then ambush and kill it. They usually don't go after
humans.

Only predator I fear is the mountain lion. I have been within a couple feet of coyote w/o a problem. My herding dogs will send bears packing. Wolves dont attack humans.

I use my Winchester lever action 30/30 for predator control. My handgun can be a Walther P99 or Sig 226 or a revolver chambered in 45 Colt.

Way to many deer out here from the Valley into DC. My bro in Fairfax County has Coyotes. Coyotes generally go after smaller prey. Now what we need here in the East is to bring back the wolf.

LGDs are the best predator control for the money. More effective than any human with a rifle, They have better hearing, sense of smell and eyesight. They work 24/7.

Yes you can take them out w/ a 9mm.

Va herder
 
VAHerder.... I'd love to see a pic of your Owczarek Tatrzanski. Great breed. How many dogs killed the Cougar? That is a feat unto its self for any dog or dogs.
 
I will return your dog to you and string it up on your mailbox so your kids will see it.


Great, psychologically traumatize someone's kids to indulge your lust for reprisal.
Tongue in cheek, I'll presume.
 
http://zooworld.com.ua/img/dogs/podgalyanskaya-ovcharka.jpg

Great Pyr mountain dogs? My FAVORITE breed of all time, and incredible dogs.

That said, I find it a bit disturbing that 'varmits', coyotes, prarie dogs, rabbits, etc. can become an obsession with folks with rifles. Screwing up the balance of nature is something we are REALLY good at, and, our efforts to fix it result in bigger messes then we started with. The recent introduction of Canadian wolves
by the EPA comes to mind.

As for mountain lions: We don't have mountain lions and, they never come around...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/Bill400ss/KittyKat.jpg?t=1286047367
 
So many others have posted in here, so I'll drop my two cents too.

I've camped and hiked around coyotes for decades. Smokies to Ozarks to Four Corners to Lake Superior. They yip at sundown and, though I remain wary, I've never felt threatened. They fill a niche in that ecosystem and, as long I can maintain my position at the top of the chain, I am not their predator.

Around my parents farm or near my home and associated small children / pets? Yep... I'll treat them like any other predator that comes close to my "den." Dead.
 
A Great Pyr, Anatoli or Tatra would indeed do nicely. *Extremely* gentle with kids and all kinds of critters that are supposed to be around, not so much for predators. Coyotes and bobcats, even large ones will be absolutely no match for a single Pyr, much less a pair.

That all being said, I've got loads of coyotes at my place in the country. I've never felt threatened in any way, even while camping. If one were acting strange, though, I'd wouldn't think twice about dispatching it. If I raised livestock I would likely be more proactive.

Some have mentioned "the natural order" of things and "natural balance" and what not. I'm afraid all wildlife situations nowadays are so far out of whack that the fear of making it any worse by shooting coyotes is laughable.


-Matt
 
I live just East of Boulder, there is definitely too many coyotes in this area! A town just So. of us, Broomfield, had a run in with 5 coyotes about 2 weeks ago, right in town. A guy was walking his 2 dogs, was attacked, one dog chased them off. A day later, a woman was chased back inside her condo by 2 coyotes. The cities don't want anyone coming in and trapping/shooting/poisoning them, "Just honk your horn, or clap your hands, they'll run from you". We live next to about 50 acres of farm ground, coyotes out there every night, sometimes we've seen them in day light also. As on contributor said, "When those coyotes are howling and yipping, my dogs are very quiet." When mine are outside and hear them out here, mine don't even look that direction! The cities around the Denver area don't want the Game and Fish to remove them, leave them alone, are they really hurting anything?! Like another contributor said,"Pack them up and let them take 'em home with them...." I've shot many in my 61 years, and I'll continue to also, .44 mag. shotgun or whatever rifle I have with me! Guts and fur everwhere!:evil:
 
Last week a neighbor's dog got eaten alive by coyotes. I could hear its yelping about a quarter mile away, growing quieter and quieter then silence . Unfortunately my neighbor slept right through it. I have nothing but contempt for these creatures. People don't realize how dangerous they can be to pets until they come up missing or they find a hollowed out carcass.

This reminds me I need to increase the size of my dog pack.
 
If they pose a threat to me I'll crack 'em in a heartbeat, otherwise I let 'em run.

I've never needed to pop one in my 51 years other that when actually Coyote hunting.

But yes, a 9mm will do.
 
We have coyotes here in NY state, they have been a problem killing and mauling pets. So far no people have been attacked but they have been menaced. Kind of surprised they flourish here since its so populated.
 
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