50 Shooter
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Yep, it's all of us Californians causing YOUR problems.
Will the next "ant burner" please step up!
Will the next "ant burner" please step up!
Colorado Sheriff "Boy Scouts = Hamas"
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bl4ckd0g
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I'm not certain that most of the CA refugees into CO are true Californios. Rather, I'd assume that they grew up in suburban America and made their way West in the 80's, then 90's for their growing economy, then decided to cash out.
I lived in Satan Ana and work in Irvine for almost a year, and I felt that the most of the Native Californians were great people. The corporate carpetbaggers and their soccor mom wives that followed the "next big thing" every couple of years seemed to range from mildly acceptable to downright repugnant selfish bastards.
These are the people that ruining it for the native Coloradans. Hell, in a few years, I might just move to northern California.
I lived in Satan Ana and work in Irvine for almost a year, and I felt that the most of the Native Californians were great people. The corporate carpetbaggers and their soccor mom wives that followed the "next big thing" every couple of years seemed to range from mildly acceptable to downright repugnant selfish bastards.
These are the people that ruining it for the native Coloradans. Hell, in a few years, I might just move to northern California.
bl4ckd0g
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Also, it's worthy to note that I was working with a roughneck friend of mine last summer, who shared this with me: He and his wife own a ranch near Steamboat, which was the sight of the Rainbow Gathering a year or two ago. To make a long story short, it was a major hippie (more like psuedo-hippie) week long festival that attracted both hippies and derelicts from from and wide.
Each year, several people die while camping at the gathering from drug overdoses and natural causes. That year, there were supposedly 14 out of 25,000 visitors died.
Instead of searching the festival grounds after the party ended, the local authorities assumed that the park's bears and vultures would give the local coroners a break, and eat those whom were left behind.
Each year, several people die while camping at the gathering from drug overdoses and natural causes. That year, there were supposedly 14 out of 25,000 visitors died.
Instead of searching the festival grounds after the party ended, the local authorities assumed that the park's bears and vultures would give the local coroners a break, and eat those whom were left behind.
TimboKhan
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I never said that you didn't fight for your rights in California. I also did not blame any problems on California, but since you imply that I did, I will go so far as to say that I am not convinced that our current governor would have been elected if it weren't for the influx of California Democrats. To be honest, by merit of actually being a 2A advocate, your probably one of the exceptions to my desire to keep Californians out. Look man, take offense if you want, but SoCal is a cesspool. NoCal, with a couple of exceptions (which is true of any state), is delightful.
ArfinGreebly
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California Kutting Edge
California has been on the cutting edge of "cool" for decades.
That's been good for it.
And that's been bad for it.
The trouble is, the people currently in charge want to continue being on the Kutting Edge of Kool, and their thinking processes have been polluted by something Kool that was introduced into their schools as far back as the '50s: socialism.
This flavor of Kool was also introduced into the schools across the rest of the country.
California is not the source of this stuff; California is simply the most advanced case of symptoms of what happens when a culture is infested with socialism.
Don't look to California as the source. You will be looking the wrong way when the punch lands.
I grew up in California. Kids with rifles and shotguns was the norm. Kids missing a week of school when hunting season opened was the norm. Kids debating whether the .30-06 or .30-30 was more powerful was the norm. And nobody shot up the schools.
The biggest single change to education back then was the introduction of a new kind of staff member whose favorite question was, "how does that make you feel?"
California is what happens when you let this stuff culture for too long in any given petri dish.
When your dog has to be put down because it has rabies, it is a mistake to implement stringent dog restrictions to prevent the spread of the disease. You have to know the vector. Your dog killed a squirrel, the squirrel got rabies from a bat. Rabies control means control of the vector, not the victim.
Hmmm. That has a ring to it. Control the vector, not the victim.
California is the victim, not the vector.
Socialism is the disease, schools are the vector, and the source asks, "how does that make you feel?"
Yes, Colorado is in trouble.
It didn't come from California.
Treat the vector, not the victim.
California has been on the cutting edge of "cool" for decades.
That's been good for it.
And that's been bad for it.
The trouble is, the people currently in charge want to continue being on the Kutting Edge of Kool, and their thinking processes have been polluted by something Kool that was introduced into their schools as far back as the '50s: socialism.
This flavor of Kool was also introduced into the schools across the rest of the country.
California is not the source of this stuff; California is simply the most advanced case of symptoms of what happens when a culture is infested with socialism.
Don't look to California as the source. You will be looking the wrong way when the punch lands.
I grew up in California. Kids with rifles and shotguns was the norm. Kids missing a week of school when hunting season opened was the norm. Kids debating whether the .30-06 or .30-30 was more powerful was the norm. And nobody shot up the schools.
The biggest single change to education back then was the introduction of a new kind of staff member whose favorite question was, "how does that make you feel?"
California is what happens when you let this stuff culture for too long in any given petri dish.
When your dog has to be put down because it has rabies, it is a mistake to implement stringent dog restrictions to prevent the spread of the disease. You have to know the vector. Your dog killed a squirrel, the squirrel got rabies from a bat. Rabies control means control of the vector, not the victim.
Hmmm. That has a ring to it. Control the vector, not the victim.
California is the victim, not the vector.
Socialism is the disease, schools are the vector, and the source asks, "how does that make you feel?"
Yes, Colorado is in trouble.
It didn't come from California.
Treat the vector, not the victim.
Controlling vector dogs? Man, from now on when I sit on the back porch at night and listen to Steve Miller Band and smoke I'm gonna carry a bigger rifle 
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He's right on the nail though folks and I could not agree more. You have to control the source, not the victim. This ties directly into the Anti-RKBA whiners. People that use guns to commit crimes are criminals. Don't blame the tools be it shovel or axe. Blame the criminal and "control the vector".
I'm listening to Steve Miller Band right now
Singing, Go On, Take The Money And Run!
.He's right on the nail though folks and I could not agree more. You have to control the source, not the victim. This ties directly into the Anti-RKBA whiners. People that use guns to commit crimes are criminals. Don't blame the tools be it shovel or axe. Blame the criminal and "control the vector".
I'm listening to Steve Miller Band right now
Singing, Go On, Take The Money And Run!
OK time to chime in...
I earned my FIRST merit badge, Marksmanship (duh) at Peaceful Valley Scout Ranch some THIRTY years ago. And as far as I know the ranch has been in continuous operation for close to 45 years, and there has been a rifle range there the whole time.
So what exactly are the NEW neighbors complaining about? That a new and improved skeet range, built or donated to the scouts is suddenly 'too loud?'
:banghead:
Maybe it's time BOY SCOUTS in full uniform protested for the RIGHT to shoot on THEIR ranch.
I earned my FIRST merit badge, Marksmanship (duh) at Peaceful Valley Scout Ranch some THIRTY years ago. And as far as I know the ranch has been in continuous operation for close to 45 years, and there has been a rifle range there the whole time.
So what exactly are the NEW neighbors complaining about? That a new and improved skeet range, built or donated to the scouts is suddenly 'too loud?'
:banghead:Maybe it's time BOY SCOUTS in full uniform protested for the RIGHT to shoot on THEIR ranch.
orionengnr
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Thousands of pounds of lead?
Yeah...maybe in a thousand years.
And yeah, Californians are cashing out of their real estate holdings and moving to WA, OR, ID, AZ, NV, CO, MT, etc. They are bringing their "values"
with them. Just ask any of the residents of the above-mentioned states. In much the same way, MASS holes are doing the same to ME, NH, VT...and New Yawkers are doing the same to CT, RI, PA, NJ (like they need any help).
Call it a vector, call it whatever you choose. I spent 20 years there; 1982-1991 in the Bay area and 91-01 in the LA area. It is not America anymore. Sorry.
Denial is not a legitimate survival strategy.
Well, somebody finally whacked the nail pretty good here- notice the sheriff immediately pulled the "green" argument out of his ten gallon hat- Lead. OH, NO!!!! LEAD!!! BULLETS!!! ICKY ICKY!!!! He wants to get rid of the range, or he NEVER would have said that. So look where he is getting his money from.
I have no idea how elk got in Elbert, Colorado. Frangis must have an ungulate identification problem. Frangis is known to be anti-gun in some circles, having spoken out in support of HB07-1174 most recently:
http://www.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CL...f60a3119c898014f8725729500712c64?OpenDocument
Just a couple of years ago Frangis was complaining how he didn't have enough money/staff to handle all the increased crime (burglaries and child molestation) in his growing area. Now he's hassling the Boy Scouts about a noise problem because he's anti-gun?
http://news.westword.com/2004-05-06/news/the-next-bad-thing/4
The Boy Scouts need a pack of rabid lawyers to make Frangis stand down with threats of libel, RICO lawsuits, age discrimination, harassment, sexual discrimination - whatever a pack of rabid lawyers can think of that will stick. The "Hamas" quote alone ought to be worth a nice out-of-court settlement these days. If there isn't a merit badge for rabid defense of your rights, there should be.
http://www.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CL...f60a3119c898014f8725729500712c64?OpenDocument
Just a couple of years ago Frangis was complaining how he didn't have enough money/staff to handle all the increased crime (burglaries and child molestation) in his growing area. Now he's hassling the Boy Scouts about a noise problem because he's anti-gun?
http://news.westword.com/2004-05-06/news/the-next-bad-thing/4
The Boy Scouts need a pack of rabid lawyers to make Frangis stand down with threats of libel, RICO lawsuits, age discrimination, harassment, sexual discrimination - whatever a pack of rabid lawyers can think of that will stick. The "Hamas" quote alone ought to be worth a nice out-of-court settlement these days. If there isn't a merit badge for rabid defense of your rights, there should be.
Boys Souts like Hitler Youth?
cbsbyte said:
"I always thought the Boy Scout where more like the Hitler Youth. They do wear similar uniforms, and I believe the HY organization was designed on the Boy Scout model."
Just for the record, there were big differences:
- the government does not force you to become a Scout; the Nazis required all youths to join the HY.
- the Nazis created HY to evaluate "suitable" youths for use by the various elements of the party and military.
- much of the training of HY involved military tactics.
- Jews were not permitted.
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"Se vis pacem, para bellum"
cbsbyte said:
"I always thought the Boy Scout where more like the Hitler Youth. They do wear similar uniforms, and I believe the HY organization was designed on the Boy Scout model."
Just for the record, there were big differences:
- the government does not force you to become a Scout; the Nazis required all youths to join the HY.
- the Nazis created HY to evaluate "suitable" youths for use by the various elements of the party and military.
- much of the training of HY involved military tactics.
- Jews were not permitted.
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"Se vis pacem, para bellum"
Nomad101bc
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I am also an Eagle Scout and think the sheriff is totaly out of line. This is the thanks we get for the amount of community service and giving back the boy scouts do and you cant put up with a little snap and crackle!
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