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Common Sense Ain't So Common...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ForeignDude, Aug 8, 2008.

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  1. ForeignDude

    ForeignDude Member

    Mar 22, 2006
    OK, guys, this one you’re not gonna believe!

    So, I head down to the courthouse to file for a resident concealed handgun permit (I got a non-resident permit). Since it’s illegal to carry inside a courthouse, I left my pistol and full spare magazine in the car. It’s a PITA to take off the mag carrier and leather holster, so I figure I’ll just leave them on the belt and wear my vest over that. No fuss, no muss: after all, it is not against the law to carry an empty mag carrier or an empty holster into a courthouse.

    So, I go through the metal detector as I enter the courthouse. The rent-a-guard asks me to empty my pocket and take off my belt before going through the metal detector. Right away, I'm annoyed because it defeats the purpose of leaving the holster and carrier on the belt. Anyway, the rest of the conversation goes something like this:

    Rent-A-Guard: “OK, OK, OK, eh, what is this?”
    Me: “It’s a leather pistol holster.”
    RAG: “Are you a police officer?”
    Me: “No.”
    RAG: “Why are you wearing this?”
    Me: “I left my pistol in the car but kept the holster on my belt.”
    RAG: “I don’t see why you are wearing this.”
    Me: “I just told you.”
    RAG: “Are you a police officer or military?”
    Me: “I am military, but I don’t see how that is relevant.”
    RAG: “Oh, you are military.”
    Me: “Yes, but what does that have to do with anything?”

    The guy then called to his “sergeant” in a loud voice, in a lobby area full of people, and holds up the holster: “Sergeant, he is carrying this, but he says he is not police.” The “sergeant” then asked him if the holster was empty, to which he replied that, yes, it was empty. The “sergeant” then told him to let me go on.

    My wife was right behind me throughout all of this, and I could see that she was trying very hard not to laugh out loud.

    After we moved on, we both started laughing. My thought was: only way I could hurt somebody with an empty holster is to chuck it at his head. Jeez....

    The guard was African (maybe Kenyan or Nigerian), and had a heavy accent, although he spoke grammatically correct English. He was most likely a recent immigrant; maybe he wasn't used to seeing a humble peasant wearing the accessories of an armed citizen. On the other hand, you'd think his company would have trained him better, given the high proliferation of legally armed folks in the area.
  2. misANTHrope

    misANTHrope Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Hixson, TN
    If common sense were really common, we wouldn't have a special name for it.
  3. Old Grump

    Old Grump Member

    Jun 30, 2008
    Blue River Wisconsin
    Best security we can get

    From the lowest bidder, just check TSA's performance record at airports. Carrying in court houses is just plain wrong, the felon who snatches an officers gun might be hurt. Who knows you might have scared a felon by the mere sight of your holster thus violating his civil rights, for shame. If you had been carrying you might not have provoked your security guard to ask so many questions. Just a "Have a nice day sir move along please."
  4. Agent 006 &7/8

    Agent 006 &7/8 Member

    Feb 20, 2007
    The Mountains of Northern Wyoming
    Much like my experiance a while back with a TSA white shirt. I placed my bag and flight case (airline pilot) on the X-Ray belt and he suddenly called for the belt to stop. He then asked me, "What weapon is in this bag?" pointing at my flight case. "None" I said. He grabs the case and repeates (intense), "I need to know exactly what weapon is in this bag!". Me (baffled), "None." Him (very intense), "I can't let you through with a weapon." Me (getting ticked), "There is no weapon in that bag. I know the rules and there is no weapon in that bag." He then jabs a finger at the NRA sticker on the case and says... "Well, it says 'National Rifle Association' so WHAT GUN IS IN THIS BAG!" I point at the RMEF sticker next to it and ask, "No guns. That one's for the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. Do you expect to find an elk in there too?" :banghead:
  5. Joe Link

    Joe Link Member

    Sep 10, 2006
    Portland, OR
    That's awesome that your wife has a good sense of humor :D
  6. Thernlund

    Thernlund Member

    Apr 12, 2007
    Phoenix, AZ
    I was rolling my eyes and saying, "Good Lord" until I read this bit. It is a strong possibility that whole idea of carrying is just foriegn to him, and he was trying to do what he thought was a good job.

    In this case I think some slack for the guy might be in order.

  7. Chipperman

    Chipperman Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Essex Co, MA
    Hah! What did he say to that?
  8. highorder

    highorder Member

    Oct 7, 2007
    I thought you said REMF. that's a little different :)
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