Confused by qualifying requirements. Need help.

[CAS700850]

One of the bailiffs I work with is a retired Columbus (Ohio) detective. He ust qualified with Columbus P.D. as a retired officer, so he can now qualify under federal law to carry anywhere in the U.S. He was telling me about the course, and two points really confused me. First, he shot his 4 inch Smith 66, and said that he is now considered qualified on all revolvers. If he had instead borrowed an auto from me and qualified with it, he would be considered qualified to carry either an auto or a revolver. Can anyone explain this logic? There must be some thought process to this, as my grandfather in Florida told me that when he got his CCW permit, he shot with his 1911 so he could carry any revolver or auto, and that if he had used his 686, he would be authorized to carry only revolvers.

Second, Jim (the bailiff) said that all stages started with 5 shots in the gun, whether it was auto or revolver. Why?

Any help would be appreciated, because I'm trying to assist in developing a training curriculum for bailiffs in our court, including handgun training, and am seriously interested in any logic behind these points.

 

[Valkman]

It differs - I just qualified with my new XD 45 and all stages were shot with 12 in the mag because I was alone and the mag has the capacity. Right hand 6 shots at 3 yards, left hand 6 shots at 3 yards, both hands 12 shots at 7 yards and both hands 12 shots at 15 yards. I think there was supposed to be a reload in there also but he didn't make me do it. Here you must qualify with every gun on your permit, and to add one is $25.

 

[isp2605]

What you are referring to is retirees qualifying under LEOSA.
Seems about every state and agency has their own interpretation. LEOSA says "firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm". Some have interpreted this to mean the same firearm; others as an auto is an auto, revolver is a revolver; and others as all concealable handgun is the same type. The course of fire is whatever the state or agency decides. I've heard of one place where the retiree has to fire 300 rds which includes a training phase prior to the qual shoot. IL requires a minimum of 30 rds. Agencies can establish more rds for their retiree course if they wish. Cost also depends on the agency. My agency charges $5. The state of IL course is $75 for 1 gun and $100 for 2 guns. A local PD doesn't charge their officers anything.