TexasRifleman said:It's also why people should be responsible for their OWN safety rather than depending on the dot gov to do it for them.
I could not agree more. Now if only there was more freedom with which to safeguard our safety.
TexasRifleman said:It's also why people should be responsible for their OWN safety rather than depending on the dot gov to do it for them.
It should come as no surprise that it's those places where your personal safety is most at risk, where you're least likely to be "protected" by police, that the greatest effort is exerted to insure that you can't protect yourself.I could not agree more. Now if only there was more freedom with which to safeguard our safety.
What makes you think the person in the original news story is a dissident?I'm reminded of the old Soviet Union where dissidents where routinely put into mental hospitals as they had to be mentally ill to find fault in the workers' paradise.
If there was no problems, return his guns, no harm no foul. They may have saved some lives.
I guess the question is HOW did people know he made these purchases?
All dealers, pawnbrokers or otherwise must keep a record of
every handgun sold. This record shall contain the time, date and place
of the sale or trade, the name of the salesperson making the sale or
trade, the make, model and manufacturer's number on the handgun.
The purchaser must sign his name and affix his address to the register.
Thumbprints are taken. The purchaser must present clear evidence of
his identity.
A copy of the record must be mailed to the local police and state
police on the day of the sale for a record check.
A gun dealer shall request by telephone that the Dept. of State
Police conduct a criminal history record check on the purchaser. The
Dept. of State Police shall immediately or by return call determine
whether the purchaser is qualified to complete the purchase. The
fee for the criminal history record check may not exceed $10. The
handgun must be unloaded when delivered.
This is a tough call. Based on information they had they hauled him off and confiscated his guns. If they had done nothing despite the information they had and the guy went and murdered several people the cops would be getting crucified in a whole other discussion for not preventing it when they could have. Tough call. Tough job.
Even if he is completely exonerated the "harm" will follow him for years, if not the rest of his life. He will remembered as the "guy who went nuts." I'd give even odds he would have problems trying to purchase another firearm.
7. Have you ever been subject to an order of involuntary commitment in an inpatient or outpatient setting due to a mental illness?
We had a disgruntled employee at Ohio State yesterday that walked in and killed a supervisor and wounded another before killing himself.
Geno pauses to listen to one of the voices in his head retoring to him, "Good thing we (the collective voices) weren't born in Chile. We'd never become a Taekwondo instructors".
The Article said:... They closed the street for about an hour and evacuated three homes to protect neighbors and prevent bystanders from gathering, he said.
He was taken to Rogue Valley Medical Center for a mental-health evaluation.
It doesn't matter what you think.I do not think this constitutes "commitment."
Quote:
Heckler & Koch .45-caliber universal self-loading handgun
Well, they almost got it right.
The HK USP is the Unversal Self-loading Pistol.
Media people are often spoon fed "facts" by anti-gun organizations, which they NEVER question.Ants that's what I thought as well, that it was unsual for them to even name it in the first place, and that they didn't quite get it right, but closer than usual.
Richard Jewell and the Duke lacross team thought the same thing...I thought you had to actually DO something wrong before you got arrested...
NinjaFeint said:Wow, these are awesome arguments... Using a personal experience and then some general exaggeration to prove your point is weak. Neither of which applies to the article because we don't have all the information.
Police seized the recently purchased firearms, as well as another .45-caliber Heckler & Koch handgun and a 12-gauge shotgun. Police are holding the weapons for safekeeping, but no criminal charges have been filed.
I thought you had to actually DO something wrong before you got arrested...
I don't have enough information. What behavior were the police acting on
It is my understanding that this employees ODOT boss has "concerns" on several people he has dismissed in the past. Lars Larson spoke of it this morning. and...on top of that...the guy was home hours after being "arrested or detained or proactively held'.....